LongHairGal

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  Could this be the end of JWs? What are the consequences if it is?

  by Teddnzo in

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  2. scandals

  multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?

  larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.

  many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.

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  TEDDNZO:

  NO, I do not think this will bring the JW religion down! This is wishful thinking, unfortunately.

  At most, it might cause some younger people and/or fence sitters to leave. But, the rest of the older ‘Boomers’ with their sunk-cost fallacy ain’t going anywhere. It would not matter WHAT scandal happened.

  The only sure thing that is going to decimate this religion is the demise of these Baby Boomers, in my opinion. They are what is keeping the religion afloat. Also, take into account the younger family members who are only attending now for the sake of these older family members. Once these older JWs are gone, some younger people will never go again.. They hate this religion so much that I’m certain some will never again set foot in a Kingdom Hall after the funeral talk.
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  Aftermath of being Reinstated

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm in the process of being reinstated ( my df'ing story is on here).

  because i've never been in this position before, i don't know how i will be treated once i'm reinstated.

  i moved to a new city/state and i don't know a single person here or in my new congregation i am attending.

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  TXNVSUE2023:

  Not keeping track of your posts and don’t know how long you’ve been out.

  Somebody on Reddit made a good point that whatever situation a person didn’t like in the Witness religion years ago is still there now - maybe even worse.. Besides, maybe whatever few people you liked aren’t there anymore because they moved or whatever.

  I am a long-time ‘Fader’.. I would never be fooled for one minute into believing the JW religion got ‘better’ somehow - even if I was interested! Nope, there would just be older and even more desperate individuals!

  From what I’ve read, it seems to be more controlling and culty.. Gossip has not changed and is their favorite pastime.. In fact, you would be the latest bit of juicy gossip.. But, would you be invited anywhere or just talked about? Would you come and go and be as lonely as ever? That is the question.
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  The reality of the "unforgiveable sin" - for JW's

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (luke 12:10) "and everyone who says a word against the son of man, it will be forgiven him, but whoever blasphemes (speaks reproachfully, vilifies*) against the governing body will not be forgiven.".

  most active jw's know that this is the org's dogma regarding the unforgiveable sin - in teaching & in practice.. *https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g987/kjv/tr/0-1/ sheesh - looks like i'm toast!.

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  BOOGER MAN:

  Sorry, I never bought into the leaders of the JW religion insinuating themselves into any divine equation.

  I don’t accept ANY religion going beyond ‘what’s written’ nor anybody’s modern divine claims.

  By saying these things, the JW religion imagines speaking against them constitutes an ‘unforgivable sin’.

  They hope to instill fear into their gullible members - which is why I believe there is so much mental illness there.
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  "Career Christians" ignore these Scriptures

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.

  his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.

  (acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.

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  A CLUE TO FIND THE USER:

  You can say that again about how some pioneers (and certain others) do NOT want to work for a living. I have no pity.

  Back when I was in the Witness religion, I was a single woman with a full-time job that I refused to quit to ‘pioneer and do housecleaning’.. I was criticized and hardly invited anywhere.. Pioneers my age scoffed at me.. They wouldn’t be caught dead in any full-time job. But, I figured they were entitled to do what they wanted…However, I made sure I never so much as gave them a dime.

  In time, I retired.. I hope those pioneers who thought I was a joke back then..can pay their bills now. If not, they better make a list of their so-called ‘spiritual friends’ (you know: the ones who invited them to those secret gatherings)..and put them on speed-dial and Go ask them for help!
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  a pet peeve of mine

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.

  it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.

  there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.

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  ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

  Not just ‘toothless lions’ but in some cases very ignorant men with biases against some people in the congregation.

  Once I saw this, and that I was one of the people it was directed towards, I never accepted a shepherding call again and I never went near an elder again!
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  Exes: Would You Rat On A Current JW?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's an interesting thought.

  if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?

  do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?

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  No, I would never contact that religion about anything.

  Rather, I agree with VIDQUN that going to the police would be the right thing to do if it is about the serious things he mentioned. But, to add, I would go to the police about theft as well.
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  a pet peeve of mine

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.

  it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.

  there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.

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  ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

  I see what you’re saying but you are still missing the point about why these unflattering things started to be said about these trades people in the first place.

  Witnesses with these jobs/trades made it a point to demean or shun other people in the congregation with college and/or white collar employment.. They made it sound as if they were morally superior or more ‘spiritual’ than these JWs with the college degrees, etc.

  It became particularly touchy when these relatively uneducated JWs were counseling people who should really have been seeing professionals instead.. So the criticism and unflattering remarks about ‘window washers/janitors’ got started. Unfortunately, the label stuck and it offends some!.. But, don’t forget Witnesses with their stupid biases started it all.
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  Disfellowshipped for Fornication

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

  i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

  i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

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  JHINE:

  Sorry to deviate from the OP. But, it’s very true what you say about the ‘propensity of JWs to lie and gloss over the true nature of much of their teachings’ to potential members.

  I can truly say this happened to me! And I probably never would have gotten involved if I knew the truth about it all.. I could have saved myself anguish.. Twenty+ years later I pulled myself out of this trap by ‘Fading’.. I’m just grateful I wasn’t totally ruined by my experience with the Witnesses .. I came out of it with some OCD. But, at least I kept my job until retirement.. Maybe I should thank my non-Witness upbringing(?)

  But, what does all this say about the JW religion, in general, that they cannot be honest about anything??
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  "Career Christians" ignore these Scriptures

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.

  his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.

  (acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.

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  BOOGER MAN:

  ’Career Christian’s’ aka ‘Pioneers’ as well as all the rest of the Witnesses would not want to highlight these scriptures which are the very opposite of the way they are trained!

  In fact, it would not surprise me if at some point the religion rolls out a newer version of their bible that somehow alters or deletes these scriptures that condemn them or show them up as wrong!

  As I have said many times, I was criticized for having a full-time job that I refused to quit to please these busybodies! Thankfully, I never listened or I wouldn’t have retired.

  I’m ‘Faded’ many years but I understand the congregations today are filled with needy people who followed this bad advice (which goes against the very scriptures).. These JWs followed ‘commands of men’ there and reached retirement age broke in a religion that has No social programs to help them!
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  Do the WTBTS & JW ORG speak in Jehovah's name?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (deuteronomy 18:20,22) “‘if any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that i did not command him to speak...that prophet must die.

  when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then jehovah did not speak that word.

  the prophet spoke it presumptuously.

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  BOOGER MAN:

  I always said I wanted to know which of these guys in the Witness religion actually had God speak to them! The actual God? The one who spoke to Moses?

  They shouldn’t be bashful. I would be honored to shake his or their hands! They would be worth meeting. Anybody this special that has God speaking to them deserves to be carried on a parade float like the Pope. Seriously.