this is my first time posting to this forum.
let me start by saying i was born and raised as a jehovah’s witness.
i’m thankful that i was raised this way, because i feel it protected me in some ways, especially with regard to moral issues.
NATHAN NATAS:
Yes, good point.
I don’t idolize anybody on the planet…I’m just glad he wrote his tell-all book. I was already Out of the religion anyway….What I have wondered (and what we can never know) is IF he would have ever written a book at all if he were not shunned, etc.
But, because history happened the way it did, he wrote his book and we all got a look at what goes on behind the curtain in the Witness religion.
this is my first time posting to this forum.
let me start by saying i was born and raised as a jehovah’s witness.
i’m thankful that i was raised this way, because i feel it protected me in some ways, especially with regard to moral issues.
FREEATLAST2024:
Welcome to the forum and that’s a great user name you have.
’Crisis of Conscience’ is a great book. I read it when I was already Out (since 2001). It certainly sealed the deal in my mind that I was right to leave. The 1995 Generation teaching was the last straw for me.
The recent changes in the religion do make some wonder if the religion is just making it up as they go along.. Since I’ve been out so long, they make no difference to me.. But, the one about no longer counting time made me Glad I worked and never caved in the frenzy years ago to be in the ministry!
I have a feeling more JWs will be ‘fading’ or leaving. They have had six months or so to let these changes sink in and maybe have done a lot of thinking/research and decided to call it a day.
it's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.
i was almost 5 years old when these were released.
“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.
BETH SARIM:
Even if ‘it’ were technically coming tomorrow, I am still Glad I got out of the JW religion.
I’m just grateful I never caved in to pressure to quit my job!.. It makes me cringe to think about the consequences now if I had made this awful mistake… When they got rid of the hourly reporting & time slips at the 2023 annual meeting, I was proved super-right that I never listened all those years ago!
I had enough of them.
i had 50 years in.
here's a few (personal) observations to live by:.
1. the one true religion is not here.
BIAHI:
Certainly... I don’t feel I have to ‘go anywhere’ to worship.
Some JWs who leave the religion feel they have to get involved with something else. Maybe it’s a need to belong or be social.. I was raised Roman Catholic - and after my unpleasant experience with the JWs I have No desire to go anywhere.😮
You might say I am ‘cured’ of religion.
i had 50 years in.
here's a few (personal) observations to live by:.
1. the one true religion is not here.
MRQUIK:
I read your bio. It appears you went back to the JWs after the scare of 1975(?). You were among the ones scared back.. But so many ended up leaving after that. I wasn’t in the religion yet.
I tend to agree with your summation but I wonder about (2).. I also agree after all is said and done that there is NO ‘true’ religion here.. But people can go on believing whatever they want!
hello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.
it was an older book when i read it.
i wish that i could recall more than i do.
JHINE:
If somebody wants to engage they will. Sometimes they can’t be bothered.
NICOLAOU:
Because it would descend into stalking and insults and some FUs on the part of some individuals here who have a problem.
hello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.
it was an older book when i read it.
i wish that i could recall more than i do.
JHINE:
There could be a few reasons for a downvote:
It could be a fat-fingered mistake or a person could disagree with some of your post OR all of your post.. It doesn’t necessarily mean anything you said was wrong or untrue.. They just don’t like it. Some people on the forum (maybe lurking JWs) are upset that a particular thing is even said in the first place.
Sometimes maybe some don’t want to engage with argumentative people and they downvote instead.
watchtower august 15th 1935 - "...the greatest of all tribulations mentioned in the scriptures must come after the great multitude appears and must be that which is mentioned by christ jesus as “tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time.” that tribulation period began with the “day of jehovah”, to wit, in 1914, when the war started against satan’s organization in heaven, and reaches the great climax at the time of the battle of armageddon, the great day of god almighty.
110 years - and counting!.
other denominations claim the great tribulation is only going to last for 7 years.
ONCEBITTEN:
Since I wasn’t raised a Witness, I cannot imagine what it must be like for anybody who desperately wants to get their family out of the JW religion! Even though things weren’t all peachy in my home to say the least, I had somewhat of a ‘normal’ childhood and don’t feel the deprivation that some raised in the religion have.
I cannot imagine the heartbreak of shunning from loved ones. Strangers in the hall? Couldn’t care less. But, a loved one I would mind. That’s why I’m glad I had no family there that these evil zombies could use against me.
I wish you all the best in finding a way to free your family from this terrible trap.
the meaning of true love from a man.. by elizabeth rossi, freelance writer .
i hate to say this but most women will go their entire lifetime and never experience the meaning of actual true love.. it's even slightly depressing to think that most people will never understand how powerful this picture actually is; a prime example of how men should be treating their partner with everyday that passes.. we unfortunately live in a generation with men who have no idea what it takes to be a real man.. let me give you a couple examples of a real man ....... a real man asks about your day and genuinely cares about the answer.. a real man respects your boundaries and never forces you to anything you're not ready to do.. he makes time for you, and takes that time to learn and understand who you are as a person.. a real man consistently shows you the definition of effort with every day that passes.. he will call you randomly throughout the day just to check on you and your mental health.. a real man is undeniably committed to you and looks for new ways to fall in love with you with every day that passes.. he makes protecting your heart a number one priority.. a real man never makes permanent decisions based on temporary emotions.. he never confuses you on where you stand in his life.. a real man apologizes when he is wrong and stays true to his character.. he doesn't mind hurting other people's feeling to protect yours.. a real man gives you affection without sexual expectation.. a real man refuses to entertain any women that isn't you.. he has genuine intentions with you from day one and shows you how it truly feels to be a priority rather an option.. a real man will help you heal from the trauma that nobody apologized for.. a real man values you and would never put themselves in a position to lose you.. take my advice and wait for the man that never let's you fall asleep at night questioning your own self worth.. .
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NO ZOMBIE:
Yours and NICOLAU’s posts are the ones I like best on this inflammatory thread.. I mean, who is to say what a ‘real’ man or woman should be? 🙄
This is cultural and would vary a great deal depending on what century or era you live in - and what’s going on in the world around you.
VANDERHOVEN’s list is also nice.
it's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.
i was almost 5 years old when these were released.
“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.
WING COMMANDER:
Yes, they have insulted everybody’s intelligence for so long.
They cannot tolerate anybody ‘waking up’ or showing intelligence of any sort and asking questions. Think of the story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes” with everybody going along with the charade and the little kid at the end who exclaims “the Emperor is naked”…To the religion, that little kid would be an apostate.
I also feel that people should have woken up with the 1995 Generation teaching.. I certainly did.. Then that ‘Overlapping’ nonsense came out and maybe some more woke up. I certainly have no respect for anybody who stayed after this - but many JWs are desperate to believe the religion and make excuses for it. The older diehards who are there now aren’t going anywhere no matter what is taught! 🤷🏻♀️
