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  NOT ALLOWED TO RAPE....BUT

  by tijkmo in

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  when i was df i decided to use the time wisely and read the insight books which is how i came across this

  the armies of pagan nations often raped the women of conquered cities, but not so the victorious soldiers of israel.

  nor were they permitted for a month to marry a captive woman.

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  fair point vitty...(and why not..its who i am)
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  5 lbs. 14 oz. baby boy

  by Bryan in

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  yep that's right.... the baby boy is here!

  we went for a no-stess and fluid test yesterday, and as luck would have it, there was stress and no fluid.

  he's 5 weeks early but he had to come out.

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  so welcome.......to the newestbie
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  NOT ALLOWED TO RAPE....BUT

  by tijkmo in

  1. watchtower
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  when i was df i decided to use the time wisely and read the insight books which is how i came across this

  the armies of pagan nations often raped the women of conquered cities, but not so the victorious soldiers of israel.

  nor were they permitted for a month to marry a captive woman.

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  er vitty..to be fair..(and why not..its who i am)....isaiah is saying babylonian women will be raped...by the medes and persians
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  NOT ALLOWED TO RAPE....BUT

  by tijkmo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i was df i decided to use the time wisely and read the insight books which is how i came across this

  the armies of pagan nations often raped the women of conquered cities, but not so the victorious soldiers of israel.

  nor were they permitted for a month to marry a captive woman.

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  sorry cant get boxes to work properly
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  NOT ALLOWED TO RAPE....BUT

  by tijkmo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i was df i decided to use the time wisely and read the insight books which is how i came across this

  the armies of pagan nations often raped the women of conquered cities, but not so the victorious soldiers of israel.

  nor were they permitted for a month to marry a captive woman.

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  tijkmo

  when i was df i decided to use the time wisely and read the insight books which is how i came across this

  The armies of pagan nations often raped the women of conquered cities, but not so the victorious soldiers of Israel. Nor were they permitted for a month to marry a captive woman.?De 21:10-13.

  looked up the scripture and this is what it said
  

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  "In case you go out to the battle against your enemies and Jehovah your God has given them into your hand and you have carried them away captive; 11 and you have seen among the captives a woman beautiful in form, and you have got attached to her and taken her for your wife, 12 you must then bring her into the midst of your house. She must now shave her head and attend to her nails, 13 and remove the mantle of her captivity from off her and dwell in your house and weep for her father and her mother a whole lunar month; and after that you should have relations with her, and you must take possession of her as your bride, and she must become your wife. looked up a number of references and all made the point that this was a loving arrangement..(some of these are below)..but all omitted the next verse

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  And it must occur that if you have found no delight in her, you must then send her away, agreeably to her own soul; but you must by no means sell her for money. You must not deal tyrannically with her after you have humiliated her. WHAT?????????

  wt 52 p 542-543?

  Deuteronomy 21:10-13 shows that Israelite men could marry foreign captive women, yet other texts forbid intermarriage with foreigners. Is this not contradictory??M. H., Pennsylvania.Jehovah gives the reason for the general prohibition concerning foreign wives, as follows: "They would turn your sons from following me to serving alien gods." Also divine warning was sounded against "marrying your sons to their daughters, who will desert to their gods and make your sons desert also". (Ex. 34:16, Mo; Deut. 7:4, AT) The prohibition was based on no racial prejudice nor any nationalistic grounds, but it was solely for the purpose of protecting the Israelites from religious contamination. It was to avoid contacts that might jeopardize the purity of worship rendered to Jehovah.

  But notice how the special circumstances involved in the case discussed at Deuteronomy 21:10-13 eliminate this danger of contamination: "When thou shalt go forth to war against thine enemies, and Yahweh thy God shall deliver them into thy hand and thou shalt take them captive; and shalt see among the captives a woman of beautiful figure, and shalt have a desire unto her, and wouldest take her to thee to wife, then shalt thou bring her into the midst of thy house, and she shall shave her head and pare her nails; and put away the raiment of her captivity from off her and shall remain in thy house, and bewail her father and her mother for the space of a month, and after that mayest thou go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife."?Ro.

  She cut off her hair, which was the usual sign of mourning. (Job 1:20; Isa. 15:2; Jer. 7:29; Amos 8:10; Mic. 1:16) She either cut her nails close, which would remove this means of adornment, since they were stained to be attractive; or she let them grow to become unkept, without their usual manicured attractiveness. (Deut. 21:12, Knox; Le) She put off the raiment in which she was taken captive, since the women of defeated forces put on their finest dresses and ornaments in the hope of finding favor in the eyes of their captors. For a month she was in mourning, bewailing the loss of her loved ones, thus possibly indicating the thoroughness of the war?s destructiveness at the time of her capture. The captive women were possibly the only survivors, and the heathen gods were doubtless destroyed by the Israelite warriors. So no ties were left with the pagan nation, either socially or religiously. There were no heathen in-laws for the Israelite man to mix in with.

  Hence to marry a foreign woman so completely severed from connection with false gods and false worshipers was permissible. It was quite different from marrying a foreign woman not a captive whose relatives were living, whose religious gods were still worshiped by her family, who would from time to time have some contact with her heathen relatives and their gods, and who might bring her Israelite husband into contact with them also, thereby exposing his pure worship to contamination. So it was the special circumstances of Deuteronomy 21:10-13 that allowed for an exception to the general prohibition of intermarriage with foreign women.

  Let your utterance be always with graciousness, seasoned with salt, so as to know how you ought to give an answer to each one.?Col. 4:6, NW.

  Cant help but think that any women in a city being attacked by an enemy nation must have prayed it wasnt the jews
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  My story

  by Chia in

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  i have posted this story before on some other boards, but after "lurking" for a long time here, i have finally decided to come out and tell my story.

  it is really long, so i'm going to tell it in a few parts.

  that way i can also tell if i'm boring everyone to death, haha!

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  hey chia i was brutally honest on my jc aswell...infact i was the only one who was...the irony

  still i have to live with myself...and they have to live with themselves

  i know who id rather live with

  peace out
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  DF'd/DA'd, Death, Resurrection --- Future new light?

  by catchthis in

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  years ago when i first started to question the organization and i knew at some point in time that i would eventually da myself or be df'd for some reason, i always wondered if my family would, in time, accept me once again after shunning me.

  the 1995 generation thread brought this back up in my mind and i was interested to know if anyone else used this same line of thinking.. for the sake of those who still have jw relatives, let's put on their thinking caps for a minute.

  jw's understand that just about everyone that has ever lived upon the face of the earth and have died, will be resurrected.

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  Those who have pursued a righteous course as Jehovah?s servants will be resurrected. Yet, millions of other people have died without showing whether they would comply with God?s righteous standards. They either were ignorant of Jehovah?s requirements or lacked sufficient time to make needed changes. These others too are in God?s memory and thus will be resurrected, for the Bible promises: "There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."?Acts 24:15.

  used to think 'unbelieving' mates would not be resurrected...but new thinking re seperating if sheep and goats changed that....because some have taken many years to become jw it was reasoned that had they died sooner they would not have had the opportunity......same applies to df....some have returned after decades but what if they had died in between....dont think it will ever be in print though

  btw...same applies to sodom and gommorah
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  jkScotland--JW Pedophile, Allan Scollay, Inverness

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jehovah's sicko jailed

  apr 15 2005.

  a jehovah's witness who used his position in the movement to prey on young girls was jailed for four years yesterday.

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  thats 2 in 2 weeks...one in glasgow also...not df either...
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  Anyone Experience Something Similar After Exiting

  by love2Bworldly in

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  i am starting to remember something weird when i left the jw's, but wonder if it's a physchological manifestation of the brainwashing & control they had over me and the guilt trip/fear of being 'bad'.

  i remember when i used to look up toward the sky sometimes and pray a silent prayer to jehovah.

  after i got disfellowshipped, i felt like when i looked up and thought about god that there was almost a physical ceiling on the other side of the blue sky that curtained me off from jehovah hearing my prayers.

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  integ......matthew 6:3
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  Hurray - Friday Night - what will you be doing

  by Crumpet in

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  it's friday evening!

  how will you be spending your weekend?

  what will you be doing to relax tonight folks?.

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  illegal street racing............i so wanna go there