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  Get that Drama about "No College" into the hands of a child custody judge

  by truthseeker in

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  just finished reading the posts on this years drama, about timothy "pioneering" and how youths should not go to college.. it is crucial, if you are helping any parent win custody of their children from their jw parent, that you get a copy of the drama on dvd (someone stated it would be released at the end of the summer) and get it into the hands of a family court judge.. the wt already has a booklet about how jw parents and children should respond in family court, over custody cases.

  they use twisted reasoning and scripted answers.. this dvd will expose their lies and evil maliciouness..

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  Grace

  When I teach the novel Fahrenheit 451 to my grade 10 English classes, I have to literally bite my tongue so that I do not say what is really on my mind. Total control over what you read? Banish or burn the rest of printed literature? Gee, who does that sound like? If it doesn't come from Watchtower, it doesn't deserve to be read, apparently. I remember a sister doing a talk once (of course with another sister) and it was admonished that reading novels was a bad thing because "the Awake! and Watchtower" has all the right food to nourish our minds.

  I was lucky: I was educated before I started attending meetings with my husband. Then, when I was attending meetings and at the same time applying for a Ph.D. program, it was made very clear to me that I must not bring my further education up at the Hall whatsoever. He told me that I would be hauled in the back room and would be marked for not putting Jehovah first.

  Again, back to Fahrenheit 451: there is a reward for keeping people stupid. That way they cannot question the authority above them, in this case the GB. (The rank and file can't anyway, for fear of reprisal; but keeping them stupid is just another way of guaranteeing that people won't question what's being said to them.)

  Watchtower is just propaganda at its best. [email protected]
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  No compassion during Bible Study

  by Grace in

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  i was remembering today about a bible study an elder's wife took me on once (actually, her elder husband was the congregation overseer).

  after the chapter was over for that day (i think the knowledge book), the elder's wife asked when we could arrange the next study.

  the frail single mother of three evaded the question, and the elder's wife persisted.

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  Outnfree hit the nail on the head. I remember this incident because the sister, who still has a terrific standing as a very righteous one in the congregation, skipped away from the house, got in the car, and immediately wrote down 1 1/2 hours for the study. I remember the phone calls I received from her Elder husband when I disassociated myself. The elders wanted to meet with me, of course, and I said over and over again, "You are not going to chastise me in my own household." I had abruptly gone from almost 100% meeting attendance to nothing. So, he called persistently and said things like, "We hate to lose you from the Christian congregation."

  I always knew the Christian congregation was not composed of suchlike ones.
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  No compassion during Bible Study

  by Grace in

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  i was remembering today about a bible study an elder's wife took me on once (actually, her elder husband was the congregation overseer).

  after the chapter was over for that day (i think the knowledge book), the elder's wife asked when we could arrange the next study.

  the frail single mother of three evaded the question, and the elder's wife persisted.

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  Grace

  I was remembering today about a Bible Study an Elder's wife took me on once (actually, her Elder husband was the congregation overseer). After the chapter was over for that day (I think the Knowledge book), the Elder's wife asked when we could arrange the next study. The frail single mother of three evaded the question, and the Elder's wife persisted. Finally, the study said, "Well, to tell you the truth, I'm going into the hospital on Monday for a masectomy." The Elder's wife said, "So you won't be able to have a study next week, then?"
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  Canadians will need a "Passport" to enter the US, starting next year

  by JH in

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  i read that late next year, canadians who will want to go to the us, will need a passport.. it was so easy to go to the us in the past.

  now, when you cross the border, you need lots of id, and they even ask for you birth certificate.. but, late next year, canadians will need a passport to enter the us.. knowing this, i went to the post office to get a form to fill up, in order to get my canadian passport.

  i was surprised to see all those questions on that form.

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  FairMind wrote,

  Everyone knows that Communist Canada is predominantly populated by Muslim extremists and IRA terrorists.

  Gee whiz, I've lived in Canada my whole life and I have never met either Muslim extremists or IRA terrorists! Where are they?

  C'mon, people, let's not perpetuate the same ignorance which brings us to this board to begin with.

  Grace to you.
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  Campaign to stop pro-JW documentary

  by Grace in

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  i have been concerned since i read on a couple of posts about the pro-jw documentary which is in the works to be publicly aired on pbs.

  this is the website: http://www.knocking.org.

  i studied the website, and it looks extremely favorable to watchtower.

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  In looking at their website once again (http://www.knocking.org), the small print at the bottom says it is a federally funded program. Should this not concern us?
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  Campaign to stop pro-JW documentary

  by Grace in

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  i have been concerned since i read on a couple of posts about the pro-jw documentary which is in the works to be publicly aired on pbs.

  this is the website: http://www.knocking.org.

  i studied the website, and it looks extremely favorable to watchtower.

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  Grace

  It is good to read the information on this post by RescueMe2 a couple of times. I will respond when I can.

  Bravo, Rescue!!!
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  Campaign to stop pro-JW documentary

  by Grace in

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  i have been concerned since i read on a couple of posts about the pro-jw documentary which is in the works to be publicly aired on pbs.

  this is the website: http://www.knocking.org.

  i studied the website, and it looks extremely favorable to watchtower.

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  Thanks to all who have replied since I posted this topic one hour ago. Winston Smith, in particular - your enlightenment helps us to reach out to PBS with strength and conviction. Let's flood PBS with soft enquiries. I like the point that our goal is not to stop the program; rather, to provide PBS a soft warning that they would not want to air a biased piece.

  I, myself, am posting here in a clandestine way because of my JW husband in the next room.

  Grace
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  Campaign to stop pro-JW documentary

  by Grace in

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  2. friends

  i have been concerned since i read on a couple of posts about the pro-jw documentary which is in the works to be publicly aired on pbs.

  this is the website: http://www.knocking.org.

  i studied the website, and it looks extremely favorable to watchtower.

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  I just "googled" PBS and, it appears, there is one PBS umbrella for all the stations (I could be wrong in this, but at first glance it appears so). I sent an email with my request that, if it is true that PBS plans on showing this program, that they may wish to interview ex-JWs because "I'm sure PBS would not want to be part of a propaganda campaign"; in other words, it would not be in PBS's best interest to air a program which is biased or one-sided. My email was short and to the point. I'll await my response from PBS.

  My point is this: if as many of us as possible email just to ask about it, then perhaps they will consider not showing something which has this much controversy. And, we know, untruth.

  Grace
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  Campaign to stop pro-JW documentary

  by Grace in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been concerned since i read on a couple of posts about the pro-jw documentary which is in the works to be publicly aired on pbs.

  this is the website: http://www.knocking.org.

  i studied the website, and it looks extremely favorable to watchtower.

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  I have been concerned since I read on a couple of posts about the pro-JW documentary which is in the works to be publicly aired on PBS. This is the website: http://www.knocking.org

  I studied the website, and it looks extremely favorable to Watchtower. I assume it will not present the side we all know to be true: the side that is shunning, hurtful, rips apart families, and is even dangerous. I know of people who have committed suicide because Watchtower got them so screwed up. And, judging by the response to my post on alcoholism and JWs, this is an issue unto itself.

  I suggest we all email various PBS stations to ask if they are, in fact, planning on broadcasting this documentary. If so, and they DO NOT PRESENT THE TRUTH OF WATCHTOWER by talking to ex-JW's, then I will be appealing to shows like 60 Minutes and other news magazine shows (both in the US and Canada) to tell the whole truth.

  I ask that each one of you who is equally disturbed by this pro-JW one-sided program to email PBS as well.

  Posting on this website is wonderful, and I thank the creators of this site; however, it is time we, as a collective, started taking action to teach the world the truth about this sadistic cult. Look at the members' directory on this site alone. Just by our sheer numbers we're a force to be reckoned with.
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  Coro street Cult episode in NZ tonight

  by Black Sheep in

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  karen has just had a visit from her cult father.

  i heard about this some time ago.. on the booze tonight,so i am taping it and will watch it later...... .

  chris

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  Grace

  Regarding the "Easter bonnet" thing, Karen (the character on the show) says that she used to. She also used to celebrate birthdays with her mom when she was little, then it all abruptly stopped. She uses clearly the word "disfellowshipped" and "the elders". She was clearly brought up as a Witness and now is suffering terribly as an unhappy adult. The only thing that is not right is the reference to "hell". But that is a subtle point: you would have to have once been in the organization to know this subtle difference.

  Grace