And often enough it is the ones who claim not to want to hear about it who ask the most questions.
Questions such as "could you lay off the preaching please"?
lol
Seems to me if one really wants peace, then one must do their part to keep it.
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288Is it just me or has this site become a Believer/Atheist warzone?
by BU2B ini enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
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Why do so many think JW Religion is a Cult? (NO APOSTATES PLEASE)
by Brother Mike inmy question is, why do so many think the watchtower bible tract society is a cult?
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The topic is amusing
The OP asks why the JW org is considered a cult but wishes no response from apostates
Anyone active in the JW org wouldn't consider it a cult, naturally
Those who have little to no knowledge or interest in JW affairs likely wouldn't be posting here
Anyone who was a member but left because they recognized it as a cult is apostate by definition. These make up the vast majority of posters here
So who does the OP expect to get responses from?
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Is it just me or has this site become a Believer/Atheist warzone?
by BU2B ini enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
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Ignoring the ramblings of modern day prophets and those who profess divine, direct revelation is good policy IMO
At one time, such people irked me. Now it's more like, eh whatever. Arguing with fools and/or the faithful is rather pointless.
Offering a counterpoint is of value to those who are undecided but I'm not responsible for the decisions of others. There's a sucker born every minute.
As for the thread topic, this site has always had such "battles", just the faces have changed and will always IMO.
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" the universe made itself " but---
by prologos inwatching the fertilization of an ovum and subsequent cell division it appears that the new being is making itself.
parents were involved, unskilled labor, time, energy.
no thing has ever been observed to make itself, to my knowledge.
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what is the most significant step in the process of a universe making itself?
That it happened
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Who wants to live forever?
by Doug Mason inwhat will living be like after 5 billion years?.
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There can be only one
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Giant thread of convince-me-not-to-be-a-theist
by DS211 inif you could teach me one thing to convince me not to believe what would it be?
for instance what has the wt taught about evolution/science or mans existence that is wrong and could possibly change skmeones mind?
and the more important question, why is it a creator couldnt allow for species to evolve?
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Yea, Cosmos was an early catalyst for thoughts and views that seeded a dissonance and eventual departure.
The book is better...;)
RIP Carl Sagan
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Atheists, what is the best argument FOR God?
by bohm inthere are no convincing arguments for god, but some are worse than others.
i thought it would be interesting to see what people consider the best (of the bad) arguments for god?.
in my oppinion it is the fine-tuning argument from cosmology.
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If god includes everything and we do not know everything, then we cannot know god. This is as much proof of god as it is of anything we can imagine, and that is not proof.
I think the best "argument" for god is still an emotional one. This alone has stood the test of time, and for better or worse, continues. That there seems an instrinsic need for answers to the big questions is without question. The question really is, what answer suits the questioner?
It really boils down to semantics. this god thing. A personal god or impersonal force? God who created everything physical? God who favored the Israelites? God who favored other seekers? God who is love? God who speaks to each of us?
So far, his voice is interpreted by a few and heard by a multitude. God is popular, no doubt. This cannot be denied. Funny thing is, those who disagree on the same message call each other false. This is telling IMO.
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this site sucks! its just a buncha athiest on soap boxes.
by crossquestions6995 inthis site is not a healthy forum for discussion or healing.
its an arena for jaded athiests to bash anything christian or god related.
yes, i know the jw's lied to us about god and the truth.
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Sometimes I try to do stream of consciousness.
Really? Never would've guessed...;)
Personally, I like the writing style.
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Atheists, what is the best argument FOR God?
by bohm inthere are no convincing arguments for god, but some are worse than others.
i thought it would be interesting to see what people consider the best (of the bad) arguments for god?.
in my oppinion it is the fine-tuning argument from cosmology.
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If god didn't create anything, then nothing would exist to call him god, thus he couldn't be god, so it was inevitable and always was :P
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Atheists know more about the bible!
by Comatose ina newly minted atheist, she uses her youversion bible app to try to persuade people away from the christianity she grew up in.. .
i know of a lot of atheists who have come to their nonbelief by actually reading the bible rather than just the fluffy stories they choose to tell you about in church, she said.
reading the full story with all its contradictions and violence and sexism, it should make you think, is this really what i believe in?
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The bible is just a collection of ancient beliefs and customs with some ancient bits of wisdom thrown in here and there, but also some inaccuracy, impossbilities and some downright nasty shite. Word of god? According to some, but not the only.
The path to enlightenment and peace has not been found exclusively by it's adherents alone. All religions have the same ultimate goal and beliefs all look for the same answers. Proof of this exists all around and is undeniable; there is more than one spiritual path. Realizing this is the first step in my opinion.
In fact, if the philisophical idea of god is indeed sublime and universal, it exists within all those who seek and the path by which one travels doesn't matter, since the goal is the same. For instance, is the catholic's experience and belief any less credible or real on a personal level than a protestant, or an evangelical or perhaps even a charismatic? What about the hindu, buddhist or muslim? How can one believer say that other beliefs about god are wrong?
The fact is there have been and continue to be ideas and beliefs about the ultimate questions that are as varied and diverse as there are people. Interpretation and subjective experience has and continues to rule the nature of beliefs and worldview. No conclusive, absolute message that is universally agreed upon has ever been received. Fact.