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JW's and Violence

by TD in

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my wife and i have recently gotten hooked on the history channel's series, vikings.

(my wife is full blooded norwegian....).

to be honest, the show is quite graphic in spots, but certainly no more so than a history book i own of the same time period.. anyhow, we made the mistake of mentioning the show if front of jw's last night and they were all thoroughly shocked that we watch it.. i tried pointing out that big chunks of the ot are not materially different and that even the confrontation between david and goliath would get an 'r' rating if it were visually portrayed in any detail at all.

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I'd say it's likely denial and a "head in the sand" mentality when confronted with the actual visuals that go along with the reality of what happened historically and what they hope to happen, albeit even by god's hand indirectly

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How strong were you in “The Truth?”

by John Aquila in

when you were still asleep in the watchtower organization and had no idea of ttatt.

what would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to jehovah.

then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?

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When you were still asleep in the Watchtower Organization and had no idea of TTATT. Not one bit.
What would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to Jehovah.
Then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?
Would you have been willing to die and leave your family just to stay faithful to Jehovah? Or would you have succumbed to a lack of faith and taken the blood?
Aren’t you glad you never had to deal with it?

Well, though not exactly the hypothetical question posed here, I'll share my somewhat related experience.

I was born in. When I was 10, I had an appendicitis attack and went from normalcy to excruciating pain within a couple hours. Off to the hospital we went. Examination, waiting, this room, that room, the IV, seriousness. But what I remember most vividly is the conversation with my parents and the doctor on what was happening and that I'm going into surgery. Then the doctor left and my parents told me I wouldn't need a blood transfusion. To be honest, I hadn't even thought of it. Sure I knew the stance on it and what I heard and read in the company policy guides but it really hit me in that room on that bed. I could live or die here and there's a conscious decision here that may decide the outcome. I'm powerless. I just want to live. And I recall thinking amidst the pain my parents telling me that I won't need a blood transfusion, a good thing. Like it should even be a thing I thought. Fast forward, this room, that room, the mask and thinking whilst counting, this could be it.

The surgery happened, I was fine. Life went on. I was 10. Much has happened since then. Time does heal.

Strange thing looking back, so long ago.

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What was your eye opening moment?

by WasOnceBlind in

if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.

i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.

i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.

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I would rather throw in my lot with many of the people I have had the privilege to know and love in the "world".

StrongHaiku,

Yes, I came to that crossroads at the time and made the same decision. I regret nothing

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What was your eye opening moment?

by WasOnceBlind in

if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.

i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.

i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.

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If you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?

I moved away from home at age 18 and was well on my way out the door mentally by then. My teens were a struggle to reconcile what I was taught/believed and what seemed rational to me and a more reasonable worldview. The problem of evil (and other more specific JW doctrines) caused considerable cognitive dissonance in me fledgling mind. One experience that blew the doors wide open was that I began dating a 24 yr old single mother who had a completely different but challenging life to that point. Despite hardships, she was a beautiful and caring person who never hurt a fly and although not religious, was searching for meaning. The kicker was that as good a person as she was, she and her infant son were essentially doomed at the soon to be released carnage of the Big A. This was a major confirmation that something wasn't right with the JW belief. Though her and I only lasted a few short but intense years, I'll never forget that experience and how it (and she) opened my eyes to many a wonderful and thoughtful thing.

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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Lordy...

Well played, V, well played. That post almost deserves a red X over it. I'll be watching out for you when I'm near the watering hole, er, produce section at PriceChoppers.

And with that, I'm out. A pleasure as always Miss V. And thanks for the virtual chess; all in good fun ;)

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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Ah yes, of course

So, do you like grapes?

lmao

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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V, you flatter me, following me meanderings and thoughts so. Maybe I is not so boring ;)

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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Dearest V

The world lights a fire upon catching your visage

The briefest glimpse, more than mortal man deserves

Never you say

Always I've known

I, Icarus

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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Look, you didn't get the point. I get it. Now trying to blame your lack of getting it on me is just cheap and weak. Frankly, given your sexist views on the importance of a penis to a debate, I am surprised you are rolling over and exposing your belly as an excuse so easily. Ah, well, so it goes.

Scratch me belly and feed me a grape, woman.

Dealing with you invokes boring predictability. It's not inspiring, to say the least.

You're so hot when you talk dirty nerd to me. Tell me how bad my coding is...

lmao

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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LOL

No sense of humour. Surprising actually given a record of below the belt comments given by yourself. Such is a matter of record; shall we digress on the hypocrisy of your last statement?

Ahh, you really should try to stop being so predictable.