Posts by Twitch

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be.

And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Max Ehrmann, "Desiderata"

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I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

by Terry in

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please post your favorites too.

my favorite quotations:.

you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

Twitch

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain

Dune, Frank Herbert

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I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

by Terry in

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friends

please post your favorites too.

my favorite quotations:.

you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

Twitch

"We can't stop here; this is bat country..."

Hunter S. Thompson

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Am l the only one.?The older l become the more hostile l become towards god.

by atomant in

they say you mellow out with age.maybe so but not in my case.l feel its an insult and degrading to us humans to have to live the way we do if there is a god.deep down l guess l do believe theres a god but lm having great difficulty trying to understand why things are the way they are.l dont need a bible bashing from anyone l just feel frustrated and helpless.l just battle on like everyone else but l get the feeling theres a whole lot more to our existence.

Twitch

I've spent a lot of time being angry over the god question, the beliefs of others and what I believe to be right.

However, I've come to terms with the question and no longer feel anger. It's rather nice actually.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Twitch

Yes. I asked you for your opinion. It's called having a conversation. You should give it a try.

Were we not conversing? You made your point, I made mine. If you don't like what I posted or my opinion thats your problem. Try not to blame your issue on me, again; it makes you look like a dick.

No. I am just puzzled why any intelligent adult would think the charter has any relevance to discussing ideas on a religious discussion forum.

Aw another ad hominem. Why am I not surprised?

You're right; freedom of speech has nothing on do with people discussing religion in public. Clearly I am not as smart as you. Carry on Mr. Chairman

Lol

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Happy Pi Day

by dothemath in

tomorrow is march 14 (3.14), so its known as pi day, to honour the all-important constant.. incidentally, the bible has been criticized by mathematicians because the scriptures give a very poor value of pi.. the scripture is based on 1kings 7: 23 and reads as follows:.

"and he proceeded to make the molten sea ten cubits from its one brim to its other brim, circular all around; and its height was five cubits, and it took a line of thirty cubits to circle all around it".

now that shape is actually mathematically impossible to construct, because if the diameter is 10 cubits, the circumference would have to be 31.4159 cubits.

Twitch

Damn! Beat me to it. Usurped even

Oh, glorious pi! Why ist thou irrational so?

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Twitch

@ Twitch
Are you on drugs?

Here we go...lol

No, actually. Relevance?

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Twitch

So you posted a quote from the UDHR that you agree has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

I agreed to nothing, Mr. Chairman. I think the articles have some relevance to the topic. While it doesn't address or qualify a religious belief, it nonetheless supports the right to any belief and explicitly, the freedom to express opinions without interference. It says nothing of proof or criticism or what interference really means but clearly the charter encompasses critical thought under freedom of opinion and expression. So in essence, the charter does support your assertions though the question may be where the line is between one's freedom and anothers especially with regard to the topic.

But if you felt the post was irrelevant, you could've just said so in the beginning, yes?

You did

Then you proceeded to "address the person".

I didn't address the initial post to anybody in particular and posted no opinion on it. Rather than speaking to what the articles say and support, you questioned me on what I think they say and support or rather, what they don't. This does not mean you failed to address the issue, only that you did so by making it personal instead of objective. Such a distinction should be apparent

Like I said, you could've addressed the ideas directly. "While I agree with the articles, I think criticism is/is not...etc" That you chose to make it personal instead is a matter of record. It could've been a different and better conversation IMO

But while we're on the personal note, I suspect this post of the charter ruffles your feathers a bit, yes? I mean, why would you rather question me and my alleged misunderstanding of the charter's intent? Do you have a problem with me posting such ideas or the ideas themselves?

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

jw
friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Twitch

In what way did I fail to address the issue? I asked you a very specific question about the issue.

Who said you failed to address the issue? I just asked if you had issue with what was posted. Clearly you do have issue with the idea it would seem. But why ask me? Can't you address the assertion directly?

You could've addressed the post with "what the charter says is/is not" or "I think the charter implies that criticism is/is not" etc. I find your tack rather personal in nature, which is unnecessary but seems a pattern.

Besides I don't "owe" you anything.

Do you think that means that other people are not allowed to challenge your beliefs? Do you think that it the intention of the Declaration?

The only people that try to change other people's beliefs are religious people, in my experience. I don't listen to 'em but it's their right to espouse their beliefs, like anyone. Equality and respect, me thinks is the idea.

If the Declaration intends that beliefs shouldn't be challenged then it would say so, wouldn't it? Does It?

Would that not make all religious preaching a breach of the Declaration too?

Does it? Because if it does, then the people who wrote this should be informed.

Don't you think you have misunderstood the Declaration?

Not at all. I merely take it at face value for what it does say, not what it doesn't.

How should it read?