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acadian
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Reggae On The River '06 (+ OFG meets acadian) photos
by OpenFireGlass insunrize thursday morning.... .
almost ready.... .
some reggae art.... .
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
Thanks heathen. I would agree with about the early church and corruption of the bible. What I wonder though about Jesus statement about paying ceasar things to ceasar's and God's things to God. If God created everything then in truth all things are Gods. Its a pardox, I think? And if satan is the ruler of this world, aren't all governments anti-christ then? I just wonder why God wants christians to be in subjection to satan's rule? I think this is one of those issues that can go either way, depending on your core beliefs. Thanks again heathen! Acadian I gotta get some work done, be back later.
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
Jesus wasn't one for making a person denounce their sin before he helped em out and taught them right.
And taught them right, the way it should be.
Me...I'd never go to war. I'm too chicken, I don't like killin people, and I don't like other people killin people. Gumscardycat
No man, it take more courage to stand for whats right, then give in to the easy way out. You have Gumballs! lol Acadian
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
Thats right, its a mystery. Acadian of the I can't sepll class here = hear
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
Hey Gumby, nice to here from you! Now was that from the revised edition? lol
Jesus adopted them as heavenly sons and so their kinship was not of a carnal "worldy" source any longer but was to be a heavenly kinship in another world ( the heavens).......which was WHY they were to be no part of a world that's divided from him....one being earthly and of "the world" and the other one heavenly, not from this world. Gumby 8:15-22
I'm thinking on the line of two governments (Heavnly and Worldly), and that you can't serve two masters. Good to here from you gumby, hey check out OFG's post about Reggae on the River, he's took some nice pic's. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/119678/1.ashx Acadian
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
I wonder what Jesus would do if he was consripted in the Roman army...? Thanks again Lovelylil, I appreciate your thoughts! Acadian
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
Hi Lovelylil,and thanks for your comment. I have a problem with the military thing, how do you love your neighbor and kill them at the same time? Or what about the command "Do not kill" in the 10 commandments? I can see defending yourself, but not following blindly some leader in war. And do the leaders tell us the truth as why were going to war? Not usually. Wasn't Hitler by scriptural terms consider a superior authority? would it be obeying God, to obey Hitler? I'm sure I'm not seeing something. And why would Rome kill Paul for promoting subjection to Rome? And those Christians who didn't burn incence according to Roman law, were they disobeying God, because they weren't following the law of Rome the superior authority? Acadian
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What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
by acadian in"to be, "no part of the world?
after comparing romans 13:1-7 , john 15: 18-21, james 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
let's say paul was telling the church at romans 13: 1-7, "be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the roman empire.
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acadian
What does it really mean? "To be, "no part of the world?"
After comparing Romans 13:1-7 , John 15: 18-21, James 4:4, what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
Let's say Paul was telling the Church at Romans 13: 1-7, "Be subject to the secular government," which at that time was the Roman Empire. And he was also saying, "Rome is not a terror to good works, but to the evil. The Roman centurion does not swing his sword in vain. Therefore, do good and you shall have praise of the same."
I pose only one question, Why was Paul beheaded by a Roman Centurion if he was preaching, "Be subject to Rome"?
The Roman government would have no cause to behead him. He was one of their best spokesmen, telling new converts to obey Rome, and be in subjection to their authority.
On the other hand, if Paul was beheaded because he was an "evildoer," why is an "evildoer" writing in the Bible?
Here are the scriptures to compare:
(Romans 13:1-7) 13 Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. 3 For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword; for it is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad. 5 There is therefore compelling reason for YOU people to be in subjection, not only on account of that wrath but also on account of [YOUR] conscience. 6 For that is why YOU are also paying taxes; for they are God’s public servants constantly serving this very purpose. UP 7 Render to all their dues, to him who [calls for] the tax, the tax; to him who [calls for] the tribute, the tribute; to him who [calls for] fear, such fear; to him who [calls for] honor, such honor. (NWT) Romans 13:1-7 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor. (NKJV)
(John 15:18-21) 18 If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU. 19 If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU. 20 Bear in mind the word I said to YOU, A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute YOU also; if they have observed my word, they will observe YOURS also. 21 But they will do all these things against YOU on account of my name, because they do not know him that sent me. . . (NWT)
(John 15:18-21) "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He who hates Me hates My Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. 25 But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.'
(New King James Version)(James 4:4) 4 Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.. . . (NWT)
So after comparing these scriptures what do you think it means to be "no part of the world"?
Is there a conflict between Romans 13 and the other scriptures?
I would like to understand what Romans 13 really means, to me, there seems to be a conflict.
Any thoughts would help!
Peace
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I am in agony...................
by vitty in......................ive just been stung for the first time by a wasp.
my goodness its so painful, it feels as though ive been burned.
i dont know what to put on it for some relief.
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acadian
My arm has swollen up and I feel really sick. The lump is as big as a orange with red wheels going up and down my arm.
Sounds serious ! I hope you are not reading this right now but having your arm looked at. Future reference: Tobacco and saliva mixed together and applied to sting and surrounding area will in many cases stop the speading venom and take away much of the pain. Put a good cigar in your first aid kit. I don't know the whole process, but your saliva and tobacco act as a tenderiser and break down the venom. This needs to be applied immediatly for best results Acadian
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Do you believe Jesus was married?
by gaiagirl inthis is related to my question in "entertainment" regarding "the da vinci code".
in the book and the movie, it is claimed that jesus was actually married to mary magdelene, and that they had a child, descendants of whom survive even at the present time.
so, my question is: do you think any of this is true, could possibly be true, or is just plain wrong?
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acadian
Don't know for sure, wasn't there. You might do some research in the "Nag Hammadi" text Excepted from http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
"The Nag Hammadi Library, a collection of thirteen ancient codices containing over fifty texts, was discovered in upper Egypt in 1945. This immensely important discovery includes a large number of primary Gnostic scriptures -- texts once thought to have been entirely destroyed during the early Christian struggle to define "orthodoxy" -- scriptures such as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and the Gospel of Truth.
The discovery and translation of the Nag Hammadi library, completed in the 1970's, has provided impetus to a major re-evaluation of early Christian history and the nature of Gnosticism."
There's info on the subject there.
Peace
Acadian