lol....you don't honestly think he is genuine do you?
SeymourButts
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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SeymourButts
Alrighty then.....Since scholar doesn't want to post the societys chronology, I have taken it upon myself to give him a helping hand. Here is the official list, scanned from the June 15, 1960 Watchtower. All we need is for you to add the dates.
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Another Warning From God
by Kenneson inthe message remains the same.
reform your lives or be chastised.
from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.
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SeymourButts
Seymour,
I have never preached in Mississippi nor Alabama either. And I probably won't preach in Ohio either. So, I guess you imagine that you are not included and have never been warned.
Sorry, I must be off to work now. Later.
I guess that you guessed wrong. The difference, my poor disillusioned friend, is that hollow childish threats from an imaginary deity infected with an over active ego, only serve to amuse me. I really would have thought that someone as holy as thou would be above intimidation and fear tactics. Is this your idea of a christian attitude? And you actually wonder why people reject you and your hateful message? If you are soooo sure that you are gods messenger: Why do you have to work in a secular job? Isn't your god even capable of providing for you so that you may continue your heavenly calling? Is your life somewhat less than fulfilling? Claiming to have a sense of tranquility now, based on your belief in some sort of after-life where you will gain genuine serenity is not only irrational and senseless, it tells me that the ultimate goal in your life is to die. I really, truly feel sorry for you.
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Another Warning From God
by Kenneson inthe message remains the same.
reform your lives or be chastised.
from the comments i have read about god's supposed non-existence in this forum, it seems that we will only learn the hard way.
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SeymourButts
I began calling peoples attention to this when I was in Louisiana. When I came to Florida, I continued street preaching. I can honestly say that since I began preaching, these past two years have seen the most frequent and worst hurricanes. Let's see if I am reading this correctly.... All of this got worse when YOU started your so-called heavenly approved preaching work. By your own admission, the storms are following YOU. I don't blame people for trying to silence you...your "preaching" work has angered their god and has only brought forth death and destruction. Maybe it is YOU he is warning....the disasters ARE following YOU aren't they? (your claim not mine) PLEASE, DON'T COME TO OHIO!!!!
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Dang it! Dang it!! Broken arm at work tonight
by SeymourButts inugh!
what a night!
one of our maintenance personnel had his arm broken in 3 places tonight at work.
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I bet you're just sick over this still. Did you have symapthy pain? Most definitely! I had a similar incident about 5 years ago when my arm was crushed and very close to amputation. So yes,...it brought back all of the memories of my own incident. I genuinely feel for him. The sound of breaking bones never goes away. Did they have the machine locked out? No, they didn't. It would have been so easy to prevent this accident. Right after it happened I called the safety director and had him come in. We reviewed what happened and why. Tomorrow, everyone is going to get a serious lecture on safety procedures. We immediately, with approval of the president, instituted a new policy. Anyone caught performing repairs on a piece of equipment that has not been locked out will immediately receive time off with no pay. Will Matt need some financial assistance while he is recuperating? or is there a workers compensation program for on the job injuries? Is his job protected? Does he have a family? We are self insured and treat the employees pretty well. Since it happened at work, and he is a skilled trade, he will receive his regular pay while he is off. As soon as he is able to come back to work, we have a program for those on light duty. He can work in the office until he is able to return to full duty. His job will still be there for him. He may get a good ass-chewing and a possible write-up for not following procedure but he won't lose his job. Speaking of family, the foreman that was operating the machine was Matts uncle. I spent a couple hours with the foreman trying to console him. He was really torn-up over it, blaming himself. It really hurt to see how upset he was. I hope my words helped at least a little.
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Dang it! Dang it!! Broken arm at work tonight
by SeymourButts inugh!
what a night!
one of our maintenance personnel had his arm broken in 3 places tonight at work.
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SeymourButts
Ugh! What a night! One of our maintenance personnel had his arm broken in 3 places tonight at work. A dept. foreman was attempting to repair a piece of equipment that utilizes small scoops on a conveyor system to carry steel shot into a shot-peening operation. The foreman walked away for a few minutes to deal with another situation on the other side of his department. He returned to the broken machine and turned it on in order to see if his repairs worked. I was about 100' away when I heard one of those screams that sends chills up the spine. Unknown to anyone at the time, Matt the maintenance man, arrived at the machine while the foreman was away. Matt had his arm inside the conveyor in the rear of the machine when the foreman started it. His arm was grabbed by one of the scoops and it was drug up and around a sprocket. I took off in a sprint when I heard the scream. The foreman had the machine stopped, but Matts arm was still in it. The foreman was frantic, as there is no reverse on the conveyor, and Matt was going into shock. Luckily, I know enough about 3-phase electric that I was able to switch a couple of wires and run the conveyor in reverse. We got his arm dislodged from the conveyor, but geez, it looked like a pretzel. Big time bummer! No blood and no bones protruding through the skin, but both bones were broken in 3 places. He was still in surgery when I left for home, but the Dr. said that several plates and a bucket of screws would be needed to repair it. It could have been worse though, he could have lost the arm very easily. What makes it even more unfortunate is that it could have very easily been prevented. We have safety procedures in place to keep this from happening. It doesn't work though if you don't follow it. The machine should have been locked out, and it wasn't. So, to all those out there that work in factories or with dangerous equipment.. BE CAREFUL...SAFETY FIRST!!!!!!!
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WHY DO YOU FEAR..........NUCLEAR ENERGY?
by Terry inthe united states is energy dependant.
like a substance abuse addict, the u.s. will sacrifice anything for the thrill of driving huge sporty vehicles at high speeds, it seems.
well, lets be more precise.
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SOME NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS
An accident anywhere is an accident everywhere.
This list is based on Chris Busby's compilation in Wings of Death: Nuclear Pollution and Human Health, pages 89-92 (1995), and Arjun Makhijani and Scott Saleska's The Nuclear Power Deception: U. S. Nuclear Mythology from "Electricity 'Too Cheap to Meter' to 'Inherently Safe' Reactors: A Report of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research (1999), with additional commentary and updated information by this author. It is by no means a complete list, and specifically does not include military nuclear accidents such as lost bombs and lost (or rusting in docks, or purposefully sunk) submarines, or the global irresponsible dumping of radioactive waste into our environment, or so-called "civilian" nuclear space mission losses, or radioisotope thermoelectric generators which have been used around the world by spy organizations for powering various listening devices:
Chalk River, Canada, 1952:
A heavy water-moderated, light water-cooled, experimental reactor suffered an inadvertent supercriticality and partial meltdown with an unknown amount of radioactivity released.
Windscale, England, October, 1957:
A graphite-moderated, gas-cooled reactor suffered a reactor-core fire that burned for two days. 20,000 Curies of Iodine-131 were estimated to have been released. Authorities, in a decisive move, changed the name of the nuclear facility where the accident occurred to Sellafield.
Kryshtym, South Urals, 1957:
Apparently a storage tank containing about 168 tonnes of radioactive waste overheated and exploded. The United States' Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) knew about the accident at the time (as did, undoubtedly, Congressional leaders), but nobody said anything to the American people. There is little question why not: Because if the public was able to grasp how dangerous the entire nuclear fuel cycle really is, they might have put a stop to this madness. But the CIA wanted bombs. The military wanted bombs. Congress wanted bombs. And the industry loved being given FREE FUEL for their power plants, which, they were also assured, the U.S. Government (that's US, folks!) would take back afterwards! What a deal (for the reactor operators, not for us!). Indeed, nearly everyone was happy, for a while. (The American public was happy only because they didn't know they were suckers.)
Chalk River, Canada, 1958:
At a heavy water-cooled and moderated reactor, there was a lack of coolant for a fuel element accidental exposure. One worker received a dose of 19 rem, but radiation was said to have been contained within the building. ("Contained within the building" usually means it was released to the environment slowly, instead of all at once.)
Near Idaho Falls, Idaho, 1961:
A light water experimental BWR was destroyed by an accidental supercriticality followed by an explosion. The small Army reactor was using Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) fuel. Three workers were killed, one being impaled on the roof by the force of the explosion.
Fermi-1, Lagoona Beach, Michigan, 1966:
A sodium-cooled fast breeder reactor suffered a cooling system block and partial meltdown during testing for full power. From the first indication of "negative reactivity" to meltdown was just four minutes.
Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania, March, 1979:
A Pressurized Water Reactor (PWR), TMI Unit 2's partial core meltdown was a relatively small accident, but very nearly a catastrophic one. Even so, scientists have "shown persuasively that significant increases in infant mortality and other morbidity in states downwind of the releases did occur" (Busby, p. 91). (This author's brother may have contracted leukemia from Three Mile Island. He later died of complications from that disease.)
Chernobyl, Ukraine, April, 1986:
Considered the most serious nuclear accident so far, even Chernobyl was small by the standards of what could happen. The #4 reactor at the complex went supercritical, exploded, and then burned for 10 days. Radiation releases continued for months afterwards. The explosion occurred less than two minutes after starting an unauthorized test, and less than 90 seconds after the reactor computer warned to shut the reactor down immediately. Authorities at first said nothing to the public (in this case Russian authorities, first, but American CIA and Congressional leaders unquestionably also knew about the accident and said nothing). It was not until other countries downwind of the accident noticed severely increased radiation levels that the accident was publicized, and America condemned Russia for not saying anything. The concrete sarcophagus for the ruined Chernobyl reactor is deteriorating and in danger of releasing additional radioactivity.
Narora, Rajasthan, India, 1993:
A heavy water-moderated, heavy-water-cooled CANDU reactor suffered a turbine fire. Its Emergency Core Cooling System "operated to prevent a system meltdown".
Monju, Japan, 1995:
A sodium-cooled fast breeder reactor had a large secondary sodium leak, probably due to early embrittlement. Fortunately the reactor was still being tested and the secondary sodium loop was not radioactive, but the plant was contaminated with sodium.
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San Onofre, California, 2001-2002:
Although few outside California are aware of it, the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station (site of two operating reactors) has recently suffered numerous expensive and dangerous accidents including fires, explosions, dropped and destroyed capital equipment, a nearby airplane crash, a nearby fuel tanker truck accident, a nearby fire (threatening offsite power, essential for plant operation), as well as several security lapses, and in January, 2002, an ex-17-year disgruntled employee threatened the plant while possessing a "one-man arsenal" consisting of hundreds of weapons, which he could use to carry out his threat with.
Davis-Besse, Ohio, April, 2002:
Again, another major accident has received virtually no major media publicity, but the near-catastrophe, due to corrosion and inattention at the Ohio reactor should have been a wake-up call to America that our nuclear reactors are aging very poorly.
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WHY DO YOU FEAR..........NUCLEAR ENERGY?
by Terry inthe united states is energy dependant.
like a substance abuse addict, the u.s. will sacrifice anything for the thrill of driving huge sporty vehicles at high speeds, it seems.
well, lets be more precise.
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While I enthusiastically agree with the last part of his statement, the first part almost made me fall on the floor! Natural Gas, Coal and (unmentioned) Oil can hardly be considered "cleaner" sources of energy. They can be if the investment is made into new scrubber technology vs. no technology for the 10,000 yr cycle of high level waste. Nuclear Power emits none of these, instead it produces a meager 0.006 lbs of hi level waste per Megawatt and just what would you call high level waste? non-toxic So yes, waste remains a "real problem", but it's mainly an issue of handling and that's just not a big enough obstacle Any transportation of this waste is a "real problem". Prior to recent license extensions, the Department of Energy estimated that it would take between 10,000 rail shipments and 50,000 truck shipments of nuclear waste to fill the nuclear power industry's share of Yucca Mountain, or about 90 percent of its capacity. Re-licensing to date has added about 5,700 more truck shipments, or 1,050 rail shipments to that total. It will require a formal expansion of the Yucca repository to dump this nuclear waste in Nevada. On the plus side though, Nuclear plants do not discharge their wastes into the environment like other forms do. This is true. Instead, it is stored in many places all over the country, just waiting to be buried in the ground. This isn't discharging into the environment? That's one reason nations are opting for it And other nations such as Sweden are reversing their policies on nuclear energy. That's why more and more Environmentalists are advocating Nuclear power in a warming world. lol...uh..ok It's environmental advantages (waste notwithstanding) seem to outweigh its drawbacks. It's environmental impact during an accident would be horrendous. 10,000 yrs is a mighty long time. Additionally, emerging technologies to 'treat' or 'nuetralize' nuclear waste are likely to diffuse the debate anyway And technology is available to drastically reduce emissions from other forms of energy producing fuels. Renewable energy, unfortunately, just isn't capable of contributing very much to the energy mix. Which is exactly why we need more investment in it. Even the most optomistic future projections show renewable energy only contributing to only 20% of our energy needs And nuclear plants only provide 20% of the electricity we use now. and it's unreliability (the wind doesn't always blow, the sun doesn't always shine). What makes you think that sun and wind are the only ways to generate electricity? Plus they are expensive as all hell (solar is approximately 47 times more expensive than conventional sources). As is any new and emerging technology. I wish it weren't so, but when people in charge consider all things, the nuclear option looks better every day When considering all of the risks involved, the nuclear option should not even be on the table.
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WHY DO YOU FEAR..........NUCLEAR ENERGY?
by Terry inthe united states is energy dependant.
like a substance abuse addict, the u.s. will sacrifice anything for the thrill of driving huge sporty vehicles at high speeds, it seems.
well, lets be more precise.
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SeymourButts
With the recent upswing in license renewals for the operation of the nuclear power plants, there will be much more waste being stored on-site at the reactors along with additional road and rail transport of this waste. Lets take the state of New York for example. In New York, reactor re-licensing means: Due to re-licensing, three New York nuclear reactors could generate an additional 1,000 tons of nuclear waste that cannot be stored in Yucca Mountain under current law. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) recently granted the reactor at the Ginna nuclear power plant a 20-year license extension. The NRC is currently considering a 20-year license extension for the two reactors at the Nine Mile Point nuclear power plant. To accommodate the reactors' additional waste, Congress will have to expand Yucca Mountain's capacity or the waste will have to be stored on-site at Ginna and Nine Mile Point. Nationwide, nuclear plants that have been recently re-licensed and those that have pending applications to be re-licensed would produce more than 15,000 additional tons of nuclear waste during their re-license periods, almost none of which could be dumped at Yucca Mountain under current law. If Congress expands Yucca Mountain's capacity and the Department of Energy (DOE) uses trains as the primary means of transporting the waste, 16 additional nuclear waste train shipments from recently re-licensed reactors will cross New York on their way to Nevada (DOE has selected "mostly rail" as its preferred means of transport). If DOE chooses trucks as the primary means of transportation, 146 additional nuclear waste truck shipments from recently re-licensed reactors will cross New York.
The only reactors that will get rid of their waste completely, according to the Department of Energy, are those that are closed today.
Thousands of New York residents are at risk of exposure to deadly nuclear radiation is if there is an accident or terrorist attack. In New York:
995,305 people live within 1 mile of the Department of Energy's proposed high level nuclear waste transportation routes. 3,193,616 people live within 5 miles. 598 schools are within 1 mile of the Department of Energy's proposed high level nuclear waste transportation routes. 1,578 schools are within 5 miles. 22 hospitals are within 1 mile of the Department of Energy's proposed high level nuclear waste transportation routes. 55 hospitals are within 5 miles.
Accidents Happen
There are 60,000 tractor-trailer wrecks on interstates each year, 3,300 of these involve rollovers. In New York there were 866 fatal semi-truck wrecks from 1994 through 2001, 141 occurred on interstates. There were 1,861 train wrecks in New York from 1990 through 2001 including 761 derailments and 169 collisions.
Since 2000, 26 nuclear reactors at 15 power plant locations have received 20- year operating extensions from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). Not a single relicensing application has been denied. License extensions are pending for 18 reactors at nine power plants.
South Carolina, Virginia, and Florida lead the nation in nuclear waste that will be produced as a result of current nuclear reactor re-licensing, with 2,400, 1,400, and 1,100 metric tons of new nuclear waste respectively.
In total, these extensions will produce an additional 9,000 metric tons of high level nuclear waste, almost all of which will remain on site for decades at the reactors where it was produced. Virtually none of this newly-generated waste can be shipped to Yucca Mountain without a formal, legal, expansion of the repository.
Waste remaining after Yucca Mtn. is full Reactor site (in metric tons)
McGuire, NC 1,416 Catawba, SC 1,409 Edwin I. Hatch, GA 1,103 Oconee, SC 1,095 North Anna, VA 1,082 Peach Bottom, PA 927 Calvert Cliffs, MD 767 St. Lucie, FL 746 Arkansas Nuclear One, AR 743 Surry, VA 726 Turkey Point, FL 623 Summer, SC 593 H. B. Robinson, SC 291 Fort Calhoun, NE 221 Ginna, NY 214
Current License Extensions Will Leave More Than 1,000 Metric Tons of Nuclear Waste at Five Power Plants “Under intense questioning from Nevada's two senators, [Secretary of Energy] Abraham conceded that the Yucca Mountain repository as currently envisioned could handle only a fraction of the waste expected to be generated by commercial power plants and the government in the coming decade.”—Associated Press, Friday, May 17, 2002Nuclear power is an outmoded, heavily subsidized, high-risk relic of the Cold War that presents far too many serious hazards to justify its continuation. From terrorist strikes, to transportation of waste, to the constant risks presented by operating the plants themselves, nuclear power is, by any rational measure, far more risky than it is worth.
Yet as a nation, we rely on nuclear power for 20 percent of our electricity. The time is now, for the United States to begin to cut our dependence on nuclear power, and seriously fund alternative energy sources that are far less risky to our health, our environment, and our national security.
An excellent way to begin this transition is to halt the knee-jerk re-licensing of nuclear power plants, and to take the time we have left under current operating licenses to move the nation to cleaner, safer transitional energies like natural gas and cleaner coal, and ultimately to renewable energies such as solar and wind combined with a serious commitment to energy efficiency. If these alternatives were subsidized at amounts equal to the subsidies granted the nuclear industry, there is no doubt that a transition to a nuclear-free future could be achieved over the next 20 years.