Cyborg...why leave something to scientists when the JW's can conjecture, twist, and clarify.
So the FDS has said reading the Awake magazines for 4 years would be the same education you would get in college. So....
how many of you would let me operate on you by reading 10 years worth of Awake's? I'm a neurologist by the way.
Any takers????
LOL
EvilForce
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Theory of Gravity wrong???
by cyborgVision inhttp://quotes.watchtower.ca/gravitation_and_electric_energy.htm
thank you quotes for bringing this up, i've never read such a bullsh** in my life.
those people up in writing dept.
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EvilForce
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Can you be disfellowshipped for taking a yoga class?
by TweetieBird ini was just wondering since i've started taking a yoga class.
not that i would mind being df'd but not ready to lose the family.
i lost my wt library cd so i don't have access to the society's stand on yoga.
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EvilForce
So joining the YMCA to lift weights and swim is BAD.
The Watchtower renting it for an assembly on a one time baisis is GOOD.
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Guys' Rules. Finally, the guys' side of the story.
by BrendaCloutier inguys' rules .
at last a guy has taken time to write this all down.
finally, the guys' side of the story.
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EvilForce
that's too funny.
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Can you be disfellowshipped for taking a yoga class?
by TweetieBird ini was just wondering since i've started taking a yoga class.
not that i would mind being df'd but not ready to lose the family.
i lost my wt library cd so i don't have access to the society's stand on yoga.
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EvilForce
Isn't it just plain bizarre that a topic like this is even being discussed. What religion other than the Dubs would give 2 seconds thought to this. "Yoga class?, Good for you!" I believe is what any other religious leader would say.
But I do remember the "clearing your mind" thing. Demons would move in. But, um I heard a part on the DA that Satan and his demons couldn't read your mind or your heart. Clear your mind of all the B.S. and you might just see what a load a crap you have in there.
Young People Ask "Is Pilates for Me?" - I mean come on! The dubs don't want their drones to think for themselves. They want to tell each and everyone what is right / wrong / and up to your conscience... Meaning .... wrong but we can't show you where in the bible to back that up. But if your conscience says it is ok, you just must be weak minded spiritually and we won't DF you, but you won't be getting any priveleges either. -
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Were You Always Afraid To Do Something Wrong As A Witness?
by minimus in.
jws are always being reminded that you "could" stumble someone.
you had to continuously question yourself about possibly offending another (weak) christian's conscience.....were you always worried that you were going to get into trouble because you might've screwed up somehow??.
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EvilForce
Well I'm sure as he keeps devleoping he'll probably get a bit more shy. But you want him to be uninhibited by body image. Body image is important, but also you want to make sure to keep the line of communication open regarding what's going on with his body. I heard about "blowjobs" and what not on the playground in elementary school, and became sexually active at 13. Looking back, I can't imagine that now.
While he will still get sexual info from his peers. You would like him to approach you and hubby too. Because you would be floored at the "peer info" that goes around. The "she can't get pregnant if it's the first time" is always frightening to me. I volunteer at a free clinic once a month and see all sorts of crazy young sexually active teens coming in with inaccurate information. Of course this Bush Administration is not helping by only talking about abstinence only. UGH!!! But that's another topic.
But it sounds like you are doing a great job so far. Keep up the good work. We are shaped by our experience. To this day I don't like my spouse to eat at the table without his shirt on. I was always to be fully clothed at the dinner table. It sounds idiotic but it's some of those early formative things that stick with ya... -
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Can you be disfellowshipped for taking a yoga class?
by TweetieBird ini was just wondering since i've started taking a yoga class.
not that i would mind being df'd but not ready to lose the family.
i lost my wt library cd so i don't have access to the society's stand on yoga.
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EvilForce
Yes, and we can see the biblical example of this at 2nd Romans 3:15
Do not be stretching as to your bodies as this is an abomination to Jehoba.
So while it's not a DF'ing matter... I wouldn't voluntarily tell anyone I was doing it, cause some narrow minded, judgmental, a** will no doubt make an issue of it. Just say you went to the gym. -
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davinci code!
by cyborgVision ini'm just watching da vinci code programme on history channel.
... wondering what you guys make of it all.
does it make any sense or is it wt-like publisher's stunt....
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EvilForce
The book is FICTIONAL. And the author says it's fictional.
It's like watching an Oliver Stone movie. He weaves in enough of the truth to make it seem real, yet lots of conspiracy theory to make it entertaining. The sad thing is, most American's history lessons are so poor, people walk out his movies thinking that's what really happened. -
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In My Opinion...
by OldSoul inin my opinion (for the sake of sixofnine and his propensity toward apoplexy):.
it seems to me that while there are many issues that we could address regarding the watchtower bible and tract society/governing body/congregation of jehovah's witnesses, there is one that stands out as uniquely given to ease of communication.
i would like to take this opportunity to state which issue and why, then invite open commentary.. the issue of the watchtower bible and tract society attaching itself to the un/dpi.. while i readily agree that this is minor in importance compared to matters like child molestation and failed prophecy, i see this as the easiest to bring up, the easiest to substantiate, and the easiest to demonstrate long-term gross error in.
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EvilForce
Thanks Little I just might take you up on your offer.....
I'm figuring which way I might want to go with the book, that might be a new slant or written from a different perspective. I'll keep you updated. -
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In My Opinion...
by OldSoul inin my opinion (for the sake of sixofnine and his propensity toward apoplexy):.
it seems to me that while there are many issues that we could address regarding the watchtower bible and tract society/governing body/congregation of jehovah's witnesses, there is one that stands out as uniquely given to ease of communication.
i would like to take this opportunity to state which issue and why, then invite open commentary.. the issue of the watchtower bible and tract society attaching itself to the un/dpi.. while i readily agree that this is minor in importance compared to matters like child molestation and failed prophecy, i see this as the easiest to bring up, the easiest to substantiate, and the easiest to demonstrate long-term gross error in.
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EvilForce
Thanks for that posting GaryBuss...
Makes me wish I had kept all my copies of bound volumes and what not so I could go back and accumulate all this. But seriously, I am gathering the materials I need to write about the witnesses in my own book. -
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GB member Dan Sydlik's Exile
by Black Man ini was talking to an ex-bethelite who was at the 'big house' in the late 60s and early 70s and he mentioned that daniel sydlik was exiled (asked to leave bethel) for a couple years when he married his wife (who at the time was very young and very much his junior).
according to this ex-bethelite, his marriage was somewhat controversial and they didn't want it to stumble anyone at the time, so he still stayed in the nyc area, but just not in bethel?
of course, this was when they had the corporation director format and before they officially adopted the governing body structure.
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EvilForce
Mary, here's a piece I've posted before but some helpful insite on the GB>
Faithful and discreet slave class" ...... Here is my explaination of:
Hmm, yes it's tough being a slave class isnt' it? Hang out in fat pad in New York City, not have to do any real work. Write books and magazines pontificating on how "giving" you are as a class. I can only imagine the stress of your everyday existence. Sit around a prepared breakfast with other "slaves" discussing what "new light" you'd like to make up... I mean initiate. Then it's off to "the office" to sit around some more discussing what pieces / parts of blood chemistry are ok as "true Christians". Hmm,,, hemoglobin good.... red blood cells bad..... platelets good..... clotting agents good, no bad, no good, no bad, um.... up to Christian conscience. WHEW!!! Time for lunch. So off you sit to another prepared meal with other "like minded slaves". You use this time to look around the cafeteria looking for "brothers and sisters" who need their "thinking adjusted". Most people call this gossip... you call it "tending to the flock". Tomato / Tomatoe.
After lunch it's on to the most arduous part of your day....preparing to "dispense the food in due season" to the minions.... I mean "other sheep". This is where I see the "sweat of your brow" really forming. This "meaty" food (aka next month's Watchtower) takes alot of thinking. How exactly does "time, time and half a time" tie into 1914, 607 etc... etc.... Wait the 70 years of Jeruselum's fall is a literal year, but time, time, half a time is a figurative year, tied into another literal year of 1914, but tied to Romans 5:12 somehow, "And through one man sin entered into the world". Hmm, this is tough.
You spend the afternoon thinking yourself into a circle until good ole' Brother SoAndSo declares it's time to "throw your burden on Jehovah". SoAndSo rolls a fat joint, smokes a bit and passes it around to other "discreet slaves". The non-marijuana sheep pour themselves a few glasses of the "blood of Christ" (or as Michael Jackson calls it, Jesus Juice). Somehow the circle you thought yourself into earlier in the afternoon now makes complete sense. That joint.... I mean "prayful consideration" really helped clarify your dogma.
Now it's off to the cafeteria for dinner. Chicken Spaghetti again? How many times have you told Brother Chef you don't like chicken?!? He's obviously being "head strong and puffed up with pride". Maybe he needs some "private reproof". No, No, too much work. You simply make a mental note that Brother Chef will need to be moved "where the need is greater".
Time for "private study". You open the newspaper and see the latest Catholic priest sex / pedophilia scandal. You chuckle to yourself that "the great harlot" is "reaping what she sows". Make another mental note to include in the next Watchtower "how screwed up the Catholic church is". Sex scandal.... idiots, can't they keep that stuff quiet!
You figure you can use a cup of decaf before falling off to sleep. On your way to the coffee dispenser down in the lobby you decide to stop off on one of the dorm floors. You figure other Behelites might want to ask "the great teacher" (You) some questions on this week's bible study. After passing thru the many kiss asses and suck ups you see Brother StudyHard engrossed in reading. He has 8 books strewn about, open, underlined.... You ask him how the Watchtower reading is going and ask why he has so many open books. Brother StudyHard mentions he likes to read all the cross referenced quotes and materials. You point out to him that the reason you list those referenced materials is so that HE doesn't need to do that.
As you leave Brother StudyHard's room you make a mental note to yourself that Brother StudyHard obviously has too much time on his hands, therefore he should get more "privledges". On your way back to your room you notice the light hearted, good natured, laughter in the air. You wonder if the "organization" is becoming too "worldly". Don't they realize how much suffering this is "serving" God?
You retire to your room to fall asleep in your own bed. Maybe you'll have a "vision" on what we should print next week. Tough day INDEED!!!