I suspect that even if Watchtower Gestapo figured out who I was, they would not go poking around this hornet's nest.
Ah, well then, get all the attention you can, you deserve it...
geez.
i've given away tons of information about who i am, yet the wt gestapo has never confronted me?.
I suspect that even if Watchtower Gestapo figured out who I was, they would not go poking around this hornet's nest.
Ah, well then, get all the attention you can, you deserve it...
i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.
unless, of course, he doesn't exist!
hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .
This is ludicrous, seven pages....kool-aid, or rick, whatever his name is, has weaseled on every question put to him. It's all circular, because in the end the same old suggestion is made; "Go click on Six Screens"...that is pushed ad naseum. He doesn't have to do any spamming, you do it for him.
What's this guy done on a seven page thread, dropped in five, or six times and said six screens, six screens, six screens....give it up folks, it's a dead duck.
Tell you what would be hilarious, find this guy is Trevor come back to haunt us. That would be something , eh? Seven pages of FREE advertizing...
before everyone gets the wrong idea about creating an "empowering jws" forum, this forum would be for serious campaigners to exchange ideas about helping jws by either influencing the wtbts to change or planting seeds of doubt in jws, and would not be for promoting the wtbts nor its policies.. since jwn threads have gotten so numerous and effectively using jwn's search engine is a mystery to me, i believe that creating a forum for posting ideas to awaken jws would benefit both jws and exjws, who want to do more than debate religion and relate how they were abused by the wtbts/jws, and who want to help awaken loved ones.
i feel that the forum should be named "empowering jws" to paraphrase steven hassan's book "releasing the bonds: empowering people to think for themselves" and because i do not want to alienate jws with doubts be calling it something derogatory that may raise a jw's persecution phobias.. also, jwn might appear more welcoming to jws, if there was a recommendation that posters refrain from labeling jws jdubs, borg, witlesses, etc.
i know that many members of this forum were hurt by the policies of the wtbts and that some jws were jerks to them, but that does not mean that all jws are jerks.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.
"...that really is the formula, you can sit in a KH for decades with little things popping up that don't jive and suddenly the collective hits something in the brain and you hit the EXIT sign for good."....designs...yes, you get what's called a gestalt, suddenly the whole tapestry comes into focus. Not the tiny little speck you've starred at for years.
Felt good to think for yourself didn't it Phizzy.
"If there was a section of this forum that was restricted to how we speak for better reception to active witnesses, we might as well call it the "Study Edition" of the forum, because it would be pretending to be something we are not.".... Paralipomenon... good point
Do you mean a forum where JWs can come and find out that they have wasted decades of their lives and trashed their relationships with their families and generally behaved like complete arses to the rest of mankind without hurting them ????...Black Sheep... might as well go over to wt.org, stick with that. Save yourself from being shocked, eh..." don't talk back, ya-kitty-yak"
before everyone gets the wrong idea about creating an "empowering jws" forum, this forum would be for serious campaigners to exchange ideas about helping jws by either influencing the wtbts to change or planting seeds of doubt in jws, and would not be for promoting the wtbts nor its policies.. since jwn threads have gotten so numerous and effectively using jwn's search engine is a mystery to me, i believe that creating a forum for posting ideas to awaken jws would benefit both jws and exjws, who want to do more than debate religion and relate how they were abused by the wtbts/jws, and who want to help awaken loved ones.
i feel that the forum should be named "empowering jws" to paraphrase steven hassan's book "releasing the bonds: empowering people to think for themselves" and because i do not want to alienate jws with doubts be calling it something derogatory that may raise a jw's persecution phobias.. also, jwn might appear more welcoming to jws, if there was a recommendation that posters refrain from labeling jws jdubs, borg, witlesses, etc.
i know that many members of this forum were hurt by the policies of the wtbts and that some jws were jerks to them, but that does not mean that all jws are jerks.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.
The wtbts is the land of the brain dead, where some become big fish in a little pond. Are there good, nice folks in the wt, of course, however they park their brain at the door, like I did for twenty-six years, and will follow the rules, no matter how screwy the ever changing rules become.
For every two lurkers that turn away due to the language used by some posters, three will take their place and become ex-jw's, given time. Simply because they get to bring their brain with them, not leave them at home.
geez.
i've given away tons of information about who i am, yet the wt gestapo has never confronted me?.
You'll never get caught, your too smart. Unlike me who doesn't care.
i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.
unless, of course, he doesn't exist!
hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .
"I'm Spartacus"...."NO! I'm Spartucus"...."Here, over here I'm Spartacus"..."NO! it's me, I'm Spartucus"..."NO! NO! me, me"....
"Who the hell is Spartucus?"..."Don't know, but we do get to crucify all of them and get all the women"...."So, good day after all"..."Yup, grab that bucket of nails."...."Maybe Six Screens will show up." "That would be kool"..."Yup, aid us in our work, I got the hammer".......
does it concern vampires in the church?.
well, it does concern vampires........but....not yet in the church.. .
thus......like jesus.....vampires in the church.. .
The blood of the risen dead was all the authority necessary to conquer the world!...Terry
Good off the cuff history lesson. Isn't it interesting though that most religious movements were born in blood?
Martyrdom of the leader, long dangerous pilgrimages from point A to point B. Airest of the leader/leaders, well, you get the point. However, that's not were it really starts. You have to go back in time to find the pivotal point that sets the stage for the jump start of the new, bold way to relate with Deity.
Like I said above a well done history lesson. Pithy too.
I agree with Terry....you must look at or listen to both sides of an issue. If you don't do that your not circumspect in out look and fall victim to being a POLLY PARROT regurgitating the vitriol of either the right or left.
the 2nd president of the watchtower bible and tract society, j.f.rutherford was criticised by some elders in the (then) independant congregations for urging members to go door to door while neglecting to do so himself.
rutherford responded:.
frequently some elder says: the president of the society does not go from house to house selling books.
Only time I was ever consoled about hours was the year I attempted to "Full Time Pioneer". Just couldn't crank out the 100 hrs required.
Conducted some "Watchtower Studies" and weekly "Book Studies", lead the "2nd Ministry School" in the library. Seems I was in good standing somewhere in the pecking order. Only thing I was never assigned was the "Public Talk", you and Johnny were. Even my Dad, [who had to wait 10 yrs after being re-instated before he was allowed to give the number one talk in "Ministry School"], got to give"Public Talks".
Appears to me, a persons good standing was based more on what the powers to be thought of you, than the number of hours spent banging doors. Feel this to be so because I was never consistent with putting in the required 10 hours.
yes a brother was interrigated by the s.s elders in a local ethnic cong.
for getting arrested while driving under the influence of alcohol....to save his privleges he says that he had no alcohol at all, but did drink from an old bottle of coke which must have "fermented" into alcohol in his stomach...... maybe one of the best bullcrap stories i ever heard.....we need more honest elders like him in jehovahs "clean organisation..
Sure he drank it, or went up his nose?