I was just informed and hope the info is correct that the jury has reached a verdict in the sex abuse case involving 2 Philadelphia priests.
Verdict will be announced in court at 2 p.m. EST
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CNN Breaking News: Jury reached a verdict in case involving 2 Philadelphia priests
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i was just informed and hope the info is correct that the jury has reached a verdict in the sex abuse case involving 2 philadelphia priests.
verdict will be announced in court at 2 p.m. est
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Watchtower's Billion Dollars of Property Cannot Be Sold until Outcome of Conti Appeal
by Dogpatch in30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.
i am passing this on.
cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.
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Longhairgal: I posted information from four of the latest filed court documents last night so that we can accurately understand what led up to the judge's decision. Maybe you and others will benefit from reading them.
Barbara
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Watchtower's Billion Dollars of Property Cannot Be Sold until Outcome of Conti Appeal
by Dogpatch in30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.
i am passing this on.
cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.
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Randy, you said, "One victim of their collectively abusive system, Candace Conti and her mother Kathleen, with the aid of attorneyRick Simons, paralegal Kelly..."
Kelly is not a paralegal. She is an attorney. Her name is Kelly Kraetsch, ESQ. State Bar No. 281688. Kelly did outstanding legal work on this case and she deserves all the appreciation we can muster.
Thank you Kelly,
Barbara
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Read what happened in court June 19th & 20th. A summary copied from court documents
by AndersonsInfo inif i understand the documents correctly, the judge's decision froze all watchtower's real property ($1 billion) pending further notice.
see if that's what you understand.
what you'll read as follows is copied by me right out of the documents.. barbara.
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If I understand the documents correctly, the judge's decision froze all Watchtower's real property ($1 Billion) pending further notice. See if that's what you understand. What you'll read as follows is copied by me right out of the documents.
Barbara
Filed on June 19, 2012, DEFENDANTS WATCHTOWER AND NORTH FREMONT CONGREGATION’S EX PARTE APPLICATION TO STAY ENFORCEMENT OF JUDGMENT;
Defendants Watchtower applied for an Order temporarily staying enforcement of any judgment that may in the future be entered in this matter on the verdicts returned by the jury on June 13 and 14, 2012, until ten (10) days after the last day on which a notice of appeal may be filed, and (2) extinguishing any existing liens, levies or attachments and preventing the creation of any new liens, levies or attachments during the pendency of the temporary stay.
Defendants claimed that this matter is necessary because: (1) the Church Defendants intend to file post-trial motions and, therefore, the final judgment may be eliminated, reduced, modified, or otherwise affected; (2) the Church Defendants presently intend to file an appeal should their post-trial motions be denied in whole or in part and, therefore, they will need time to obtain the requisite bond, …
Also filed on June 19, 2012, PLAINTIFF JANE DOE’S LIMITED OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, INC. AND NORTH FREMONT CONGREGATION’S EX PARTE APPLICATION TO STAY ENFORCEMENT OF JUDGMENT.
Plaintiff has no objection to an Order preventing the creation of any new liens, levies, or attachments, provided she is protected from a distribution of assets in avoidance of the judgment.
There are no existing liens, levies, or attachments to extinguish, as a result of which, that part of the Ex Parte request is moot. However, Plaintiff’s willingness to agree to a stay of execution of the judgment to be filed shortly is conditional. To avoid a massive transfer of real estate assets worth, at present, approximately $1 Billion, from Watchtower to another corporate entity of Jehovah’s Witnesses, which would leave Plaintiff with no enforcement right for the Judgment, Plaintiff requests that any stay be subject to the condition that defendant Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. not transfer, convey, or change title to any of its real property prior to the filing of a bond or undertaking required as a condition of appeal.
Defendant filed on June 19, 2012 a REPLY BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF EX PARTE APPLICATION TO STAY ENFORCEMENT OF JUDGMENT stating:
Plaintiff’s opposition states a willingness to agree to a stay of execution of the judgment on the condition that Defendant Watchtower “not transfer, convey, or change title to any of its real property prior to the filing of a bond or undertaking required as a condition of appeal.” This condition puts the proverbial cart before the horse.
As explained in the ex parte application, a temporary stay of enforcement of the judgment is necessary to protect the Church Defendants because of the uncertainty of the judgment, …
Temporary stays like the one the Church Defendants are requesting here are routinely granted to protect the parties when a judgment is uncertain. While Defendant Watchtower has absolutely no intent to make any fraudulent transfers of real property now or in the future, to the extent any such transfers of real property should occur during the stay to prevent Plaintiff from collecting on any ultimate judgment that may survive the post-trial motions and appeals, remedies would plainly be available to Plaintiff. That said, again, Plaintiff’s claimed concern is premature, plus the Church Defendants have no intention of defrauding Plaintiff out of any judgment that ultimately may be owed to her once all post–trial motions and appeals have run their course. …
Filed June 20, 2012 (Decision of Hon. Robert D. McGuinnes, Judge of the Superior Court) BY THE COURT, ORDER GRANTING DEFENDANTS WATCHTOWER AND NORTH FREMONT CONGREGATION’S EX PARTE APPLICATION TO STAY ENFORCEMENT OF THE JUDGMENT.
After considering the submitted papers, including any response or opposition filed on behalf of Plaintiff, the Court grants the Church Defendants’ application as follows:
GOOD CAUSE APPEARING, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT:
(1) Enforcement of the judgment to be entered on the jury’s special verdicts of June 13 and 14, 2012 shall be temporarily and completely stayed and, pending another order of court [The last five words were handwritten in by the judge]
(2) Any existing liens, levies or attachments pertaining to the forthcoming judgment referenced in (1) above are here by extinguished RDM [RDM handwritten in by the judge]
Then the judge included in his own handwriting a number 3:
(3) The foregoing stay is expressly conditioned upon D’s The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc’s not transferring, conveying or changing title to any real property in its name today pending further order of court
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Philadelphia Daily News - article - Catholic priest scandal - mentions JWs & last weeks "astounding 28 million jury verdict"
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/ronnie_polaneczky/20120621_deadlocked_or_not__the_priest_sex_abuse_jury_did_its_job.html?c=0.25315509423734484&posted=y&viewall=y#comments.
deadlocked or not, the priest sex-abuse jury did its job.
philadelphia daily news.
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Deadlocked or not, the priest sex-abuse jury did its job
Ronnie Polaneczky, Daily News Columnist
Philadelphia Daily NewsEmail Ronnie Polaneczky
SO IT'S still not over. After an 11-week trial, with almost 2,000 documents, 60 witnesses, multiple references to a dead cardinal and a defendant's suggestion that taking a 14-year-old to bed after watching porn with him was "borderline inappropriate" and not wrong, wrong, wrong, the jury has yet to reach a verdict in the landmark trial of Philadelphia Archdiocese Monsignor William Lynn and the Rev. James Brennan.
Did or didn't Lynn engage in child-endangerment and conspiracy in moving predator priests around the Archdiocese like party chairs?
Did or didn't Brennan endanger that 14-year-old and attempt to rape him after a lively discussion about penile erections?
On Wednesday, the jury reported to Common Pleas Judge M. Teresa Sarmina that they were deadlocked on all but one charge. Sarmina ordered them to keep talking and they will resume deliberations Friday. It's anyone's guess whether more time will yield anything different.
But honestly? Whatever the jury decides, this trial will still be a win for justice.
Because, for once, accusations in the Archdiocese sex-abuse scandal have played out where past allegations should have: publicly, in a court of law, before a jury that has weighed all sides and come to a decision based upon its best understanding of the case.
The system isn't always perfect. But it recognizes the inalienable right of both accuser and accused to be heard.
What a far cry that is from the way decades of sex-abuse allegations were handled by the Archdiocese.
Those in-house "investigations," never shared with law-enforcement, were conducted in secret by scheming toadies who lied to protect the Catholic Church, forgetting, if they ever knew, that the church is its people.
As a result, children were treated like sex toys, and mothers and fathers were deprived of their right to the most important job parents have, which is to keep their kids safe.
Meanwhile, closing arguments are under way Thursday in the Jerry Sandusky sex-crimes trial, in which Penn State higher-ups allegedly knew of Sandusky's alleged predilections for abusing children but did nothing to stop him.
It also follows on the heels of last week's astounding $28 million jury verdict in favor of an Oakland, Calif., woman who was sexually molested as a child by a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses, whose national policy was to keep sex-abuse allegations secret.
And it's come in the recent wake of an explosive New York Times story alleging hushed-up sex abuse at the Horace Mann School in the Bronx.
In all four cases, institutional loyalty blinded those in charge from doing the right thing.
And institutional power protected them from any consequences for their inaction.
Those days are not over. If they were, all 50 states would have lifted the statute of limitations on childhood sex crimes. Or at least opened temporary windows during which victims might file lawsuits no matter how much time has passed since their alleged abuse.
But we are inching toward a future in which institutional leaders may finally fear prison time for keeping quiet more than they'll fear the loss of their employer's prestige if they squeal. That should give pause to company men like former Penn State president Greg Spanier, who outrageously decided it would be more "humane" to let a monster like Sandusky roam unchecked than to protect potential victims
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The trial of Lynn and Brennan would not have happened without the 2005 grand-jury investigation ordered by former Philly District Attorney Lynne Abraham. At the time, many criticized Abraham, who is Jewish, of being anti-Catholic, given that no charges could result from the investigation because the statutes had lapsed on the criminal behavior the investigation uncovered.
But the truth is, information in the report was referenced time and again in the Lynn/Brennan trial. Without that past, sworn testimony, the cases never would have made it to trial.
Abraham is gratified by that and, no matter how jury deliberations play out, she said, the good news is that the Archdiocese "can't lie any more about what they did. We now know, for a fact, that they transferred perverted priests to unsuspecting parishes where they found new kids to sexually abuse, molest and engage in every other kind of perversion. And the coverup went all the way to the top."
The daily immediacy of this trial, in which a high-ranking church official never argued over whether a coverup occurred but instead protested his complicity in it, has erased any public doubt that abuse and a coverup happened.
Such certainty may move the public to support the reform of sex-abuse laws that are currently so inadequate. They allow for the stalking, grooming and violation of children and for coverups that ensure the public is never the wiser.
Still, finally, here in Philadelphia — and in State College and in Oakland — powerful institutions that once appointed themselves as judge, jury and executioner are being called to task for what happened on their watch.
Not by one of their own. But by 12 of ours.
Regardless of the outcome, that is the way it should be.
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Philadelphia Daily News - article - Catholic priest scandal - mentions JWs & last weeks "astounding 28 million jury verdict"
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Greetings from Candace Conti
by AndersonsInfo incandace asked me to tell you thank you for all your kind expressions of support.
this really means a lot to her.
she wants you to know that she is coping well with all the stress and excitement, even though she's had years of anger and frustration because of being abused for so long, first by the molester, and then by the wt.
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Dear Balaamsass,
Maybe your patience will be rewarded. If there are any more news articles or maybe interviews coming soon, we'll all have to party while WT weeps!
Barbara
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THREAD FOR HARD COPY NEWSPAPER, MAG. CANDACE ABUSE CASE
by hubert ini haven't seen a thread for just this subject yet, and i'd like to see a thread to report any hard copy newspaper or magazine articles on the candace conti verdict anywhere in the u.s.. currently, all i have is a hard copy of the new york times, dated monday, june 18, 2012. the times didn't go into enough detail for what i would like, and i'm looking for more local newspaper or magazine listings that are or will carry this story in print.
i am looking for papers in the area of massachusetts or rhode island, but as long as i can get them in a newsstand locally, that will suffice okay.. thanks.. hubert.
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The San Francisco Chronicle (hard copy) of Saturday, June 16, 2012, carried on page A-1 a lengthy article titled "Jehovah's Witnesses lose big Fremont molest suit," by Demian Bulwa. I found it on their website on the 16th and copied it, but now that story has been replaced on the SF Internet website with the AP story that is making the rounds and is quite short.
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In the New York Times (hard copy) of June 17th on page A14, is the AP story. How do I know it was in the hard copy? Because it is stated under the NYTimes article that appeared on the Internet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/18/us/28-million-awarded-in-jehovahs-witnesses-abuse-case.html?_r=1
Barbara
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Jehovah's Witnesses Child sex abuse Conti Court Documents in one handy download
by BlindersOff1 inheres a ton of the court docs in one zip file.
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rxb1i.
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Hopefully we'll have all the court documents sorted as pdfs and on my website by next week where they can be downloaded from. I'll let you know when they are available. www.watchtowerdocuments.com.
Barbara
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Rare find: WTS endorsed 4-page pamphlet, The Broadcaster. Bet you never heard of it before now!
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/1920-1949.html.
to see twenty issues of the rarest of the rare wts endorsed pamphlets (or brochures), click on the link above and then scroll down the column on the left of the page to the date 1924 - 1925 where you will find listed the words, .
the broadcaster - wts endorsed-must read *new*.
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Whoops, didn't know that Atlantis started a thread about The Broadcaster back in April. He gave me the material for my website many months ago and I just recently was in the position to have the issues put there. However, it's still true for the majority of people, "Bet you never heard of it before now."
Barbara