I don't think they have the ability to debate, as the WT has given them all the answers so they don't need (and are not allowed) to 'think' for themselves. I also think that the WT keeps them abreast of possible current 'apostate attacks' and supplies them with the defence (one line answer, lol) - so the R&F believe they are being prewarned and protected by God's Spirit (when in actual fact, 'God's Spirit' is trawling the internet to see what they are likely to be confronted with, lol)
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Do you find debating with a JW exhaustive?
by digderidoo ini certainly do.. i have been debating with two jw's on another forum about the un issue.
i have produced so much evidence that the un did have their citeria of support when the wt society became an ngo, all from the un itself.
yet because the wt statements say that they didn't have that criteria and it was changed later the jw's refuse to believe anything else.. sometimes i think what's the point talking to these people.
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are jws qualified to teach the bible?
by badboy inin the tract delivered saturday, it said that a neighbour qualified to teach the bible would come around if you wanted.. are they actually qualfiied?.
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In my opinion, NO. I find their only use of the Bible is in backing up Watchtower propoganda...or am I being cynical?
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Defence of watchtower society Links
by reniaa ini thought long and hard before making this thread, that many will not agree with it but i think there needs to be balance and people to realise there are alternate viewpoints out there on many of these subjects, the ones that are most spoke about on this forum.
i was recently sent a full message containing mary's book and these links give the rebuttal to many of her points.
those that are still open-minded enough feel free to look over them even if in the end you still don't agree at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.
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I don't understand. If you want to be convinced about the validity of the WT - which you clearly do - then you'd be better off on a pro-JW site, or even at your local Kingdom Hall. I've just (more or less) read through this entire thread, and I distinctly get the impression that reniaa has no interest in any responses, except to hand-pick a few and milk attention by (badly) pulling them apart. The phrase 'pearl before swine' comes to mind. I don't know if you've ever posted this, but are you on any sort of medication for 'depression'? I don't mean that in an offensive way, but the amount of JWs I know/have known on Prozac (and the like), by FAR outweighs any non-JWs on similar medication. Personally I put it down to cognizant dissonance, and I feel you need to justify the WTs lies (with 'our' help - as JWs will tell you what you want to hear), rather than face up to them.
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WATCHTOWER COMMENTS is getting a WEBSITE
by V inin the works, watchtower comments will soon sport a webpage under an prominent counter-jw website.
toying with the design, let me know what you think.
site will have embedded videos, links to high-quality downloads and pdf supplimentals.
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Brilliant!
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MidwichCuckoo
I remember Roddy Holyoake (surely there's only one?)...he was a full time pioneer in 'my' Congregation in the 1970s.
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To Mrsjones5, Freudianslip, snowbird and other folks of color
by donny inbased on the material below from the faithful and discreet slave, i was wondering if any of you experienced any of this "enlightment" during your jw sojurn.
based on your pictures, i would have to say you must have been weak in the faith.
what is puzzling though, is why did michael jackson dissassociate himself just before reaching perfection?
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I Googled that, and also found ......
Watchtower July 15 1902 The Negro Not A Beast pp. 215-216. “While it is true that the white race exhibits some qualities of superiority over any other, we are to remember that there are wide differences in the same Caucasian (Semitic and Aryan) family; and also we should remember that some of the qualities which have given this branch of the human family its preeminence in the world are not such as can be pointed to as in all respects admirable….The secret of the greater intelligence and aptitude of the Caucasian undoubtedly in great measure is to be attributed to the commingling of blood amongst its various branches; and this was evidently forced in large measure by circumstances under divine control.”
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Your Favorite Shakespeare?
by compound complex inwilliam shakespeare ( baptised 26 april 1564 23 april 1616 ) was an english poet and playwright , widely regarded as the greatest writer in the english language and the world's pre-eminent dramatist.
he is often called england's national poet and the " bard of avon " (or simply "the bard").. what is your favorite work and quotations therefrom...?.
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We are such stuff As dreams are made on; and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. "The Tempest"
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The year the end finally came: the YEAR OF THE BIG LIE
by Terry inyou have to understand three things to comprehend the significance of 1975.. 1975 was the end of the watchtower society as we who lived in the 50's and 60's once knew it.
it would forever change because it was exposed for all the world to see as a group of liars and deceived dupes.. it all began with a baptist farmer named william miller who sat down with only his bible and a concordance and a crackpot idea that a .
a "day for a year" and the gentile times meant something profound which would effect his own day and time.
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Great stuff Terry ... I remember 1975 (as a young teen), the hype, the 'calculating Adam' thing...and when 1976 arrived times became critical - the World was 'living on borrowed time'...and now, after mentioning 1975 to those same hyped-up JWs, they deny it ever happened.
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HOW ABOUT THIS FOR A CONSPIRACY THEORY!?
by Gill ini was surprised to find that charles taze russell, of the russell family line (of course) was reportedly part of the setting up of the skull and bones society.. i have read many refutes that ct was a 33 degree mason but, let's leave that as a possibility along with his 13 bloodlines of the illuminati link and consider this scenario as a possible and worrying possible conspiracy theory.. fritz springmeier and some others (again all holding suspension of our disbelief in control here for a few moments, please), commented on the setting up of internement style camps around the united states and some pictures and sites are to be found on the net.. now, there are various 'christian groups' all anticipating the 'time of the end'.
the jehovah's witnesses, for example are expecting to be persecuted and then 'saved' by god.
they anticipate 'the end' at any time.
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Ah - Hortensia, my thoughts exactly - it'd make a great film
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"Should the Name Jehovah Appear in the New Testament?" WT Aug 1st 2008
by slimboyfat inhas this new article in the wt been discussed here yet?
if so i missed it.
anyway here are some selected quotes with my own thoughts.. bible scholars acknowledge that god's personal name appears in the old testament, or hebrew scriptures.
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MidwichCuckoo
My personal view (now) is that God's name is NOT 'Jehovah', but a name lost in ancient Hebrew. If 'Jehovah' ever appeared in the NT, then what is the Greek translation?
The JWs insist that 'Christendom' removed the name to mislead the people, yet it was a Catholic monk who 'invented' Jehovah and presumably the Catholics inserted it into the OT. If the JWs were so pedantic about getting God's name right, they would surely adopt something closer to the original pronounciation than a Catholic monk's invention.
I (now) believe that JWs break the Commandment, ''I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before Me..." ...because they have invented one in HIS place.