http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/abused-brother-shunned-jehovahs-witnesses-10233281.
this poor girl was abused by her "non-jw" (never baptised ?
) brother, then was totally abused by the jw elders by their lack of care for her in any way, and then by her jw family, read the in-depth article, link above..
They thrust a couple of Awake magazines in my hand and said there were stories of other sisters who had been through a similar situation of abuse, and that they had turned to Jehovah and prayed
So, in other words, it is so common and accepted within the Watchtower, it's just an unimportant and dismissive issue to the elders.
i know this will have already been covered on the forums but ... upon visiting a jw relative in hospital, they requested i brought their bible in (the gideons bible supplied by the nhs clearly being inadequate and not supporting wt fantasy).
i dutifully went to their house and grabbed what i thought was a bible (an easy mistake to make assuming the nwt is actually a bible).
it seems i couldn't have got it more wrong, resulting in one horrified jw and one very confused (albeit gorgeous) midwich.
i know this will have already been covered on the forums but ... upon visiting a jw relative in hospital, they requested i brought their bible in (the gideons bible supplied by the nhs clearly being inadequate and not supporting wt fantasy).
i dutifully went to their house and grabbed what i thought was a bible (an easy mistake to make assuming the nwt is actually a bible).
it seems i couldn't have got it more wrong, resulting in one horrified jw and one very confused (albeit gorgeous) midwich.
...where communication/information has progressed vastly, the jw r&f have, in well over 100 years, progressed from sandwich boards to..errr..modernised sandwich boards as their up-to-date means of communicating.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691254/how-jehovahs-witnesses-got-street-smart-believers-swap-infamous-doorstepping-standing-outside-train-stations-shops.html.
comments are open at bottom of page folks!.
...where communication/information has progressed vastly, the JW R&F have, in well over 100 years, progressed from sandwich boards to..errr..modernised sandwich boards as their up-to-date means of communicating.
Comments are open at bottom of page folks!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400938/jehovahs-witness-wife-died-refusing-blood-transfusion-jailed-13-years-child-sex-abuse-covered-religions-elders.html .
a jehovah's witness who sexually abused a child and then had his wrongdoing covered up by the church has been jailed for 13 years.. gordon leighton, 53, admitted sexually abusing a child when he was confronted with the allegations by church elders at washington, tyne and wear.. the elders knew about the 53-year-old's admissions for three years but refused to co-operate with the criminal investigation, and said what they had heard was confidential.. leighton hit the headlines in the 1990s when his wife yvonne, 28, died after refusing a blood transfusion after childbirth on religious grounds.judge penny moreland said that he had subjected his victim to 'untold damage' as she sentenced him at newcastle crown court today.. the judge said: 'you manipulated her with a combination of affection and attention and violence and threats.
'the defendant was found guilty of two charges of indecency with a child and six of indecent assault after a trial.
...I did post a comment on the Daily Mail article, but they didn't publish it, drat! Anyone else here try to comment? I imagine there have been many similar comments to mine which have been rejected as the few comments published are generally not well informed.
...saw this article in newspaper last week - and, in addition to it being a horrid tragedy, i couldn't help but wonder...i know in england (at least when i was registering my kids) some names were 'forbidden', but, as it didn't apply to me, i don't know which...but i've never heard of a lad called this before.
anyone else?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-19048362.
...saw this article in newspaper last week - and, in addition to it being a horrid tragedy, I couldn't help but wonder...I know in England (at least when I was registering my kids) some names were 'forbidden', but, as it didn't apply to me, I don't know which...but I've never heard of a lad called this before. Anyone else?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-19048362
do you think in view that they now have wt production videos.. (a costly endevour) that they might in addition to the www, local and literature donation boxes start a wt video productions box with special guilt laid on parents with small children to donate ?.
it does seem to be all about the money so it wouldn't suprise me...how about you.
Last time I went to Kingdom Hall, there were only two collection boxes... ...just had a thought, if the WT are releasing a series of DVDs for children, then maybe a new (child friendly, lol) contribution box will appear at Kingdom Halls - at 'child height' and children will be encouraged to donate some of their pocket money (stress on parents the importance of encouraging them to get into habit of donating whilst young)
so, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
Yesterday the UK papers were reporting Janet slapping Paris...
It was something that troubled me as a young teen - that my inability to preach such an important message would result in the deaths of those I called on. In contrast, I was recently talking to an elderly JW (of about 40 + years) and we discussed how they had never actually converted anyone...but they said as soon as they got someone interested, they would pass them on to someone else who was better at 'going in for the kill' so to speak. So it isn't about the 'heart condition' of the person, but the sales/manipulation ability of the JW.
...... words.
knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.
in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.
Something that never struck me before, is what would the quality of these records/notes be - made by Elders with no training or apt skills who are not full time 'Ministers' ...? I think generally JWs do regard themselves above the Law where it conflicts with WT policy - which is regarded as a 'Higher Law' as it's perceived as God's Law (give unto Caesar etc etc...basically ONLY what you have to). And, again for lurking newbies... http://www.silentlambs.org/education/92_murder_letter.cfm
