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  3 a.m. - my wife is in tears! What do I do?

  by The Scotsman in

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  well my situation has developed a bit, any advice appreciated.. their has been a gradual building up of pressure ever since i stood down as an elder about 6 months ago.. i have been telling my wife about my doubts but have continued to attend "some" meetings.. as time has progressed i have become more open with my criticism of the org.. i mentioned the un scandal, molestation trials, false prophecy ect etc.. interestingly she does not deny these facts and yet still wants to continue as a jw.. i told her that god is not happy with people knowingly being part of a false prophet (deut 18 - etc) - starting to lay the groundwork for my exit.. she appreciates the difficult situation doubters are in - they cannot openly express their feelings for fear of jcs.. anyway, a few weeks ago we moved house which meant changing congregation.. but i felt it would be best if i did not attend meetings " at all" at the new cong so my fade could be easier.. but i could not have predicted my wifes response - when i told her it was an explosion of emotion, i mean real heartbreaker stuff.. she seems depressed at the prospect, perhaps the reality is finally hitting home.. last night, about 3a.m.

  i noticed that she was not in bed.

  i went downstairs and she was sobbing away to herself.. "i can't go to that hall myself!

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  In my opinion I don't think its a good idea to "force" her to stop attending by not helping her.

  Sirona, while I agree in principal I do feel that the majority of JWs NEED some sort of emotional crutch. If she said ''I can't attend meetings because Mr Scotsman won't come with me'' then it's a joke. He isn't physically stopping her, he's made HIS choice, not hers. JWs believe that the World should make allowances for them (especially in divided families, it's ALWAYS the wishes/beliefs of the JWs that can't be offended). Does she care about Scotsman's beliefs?...nope, we all know that JWs have ZERO respect for others' beliefs...maybe if she does manage to go alone, she'll see JUST how loving they are if she hasn't a husband in tow.
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  3 a.m. - my wife is in tears! What do I do?

  by The Scotsman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well my situation has developed a bit, any advice appreciated.. their has been a gradual building up of pressure ever since i stood down as an elder about 6 months ago.. i have been telling my wife about my doubts but have continued to attend "some" meetings.. as time has progressed i have become more open with my criticism of the org.. i mentioned the un scandal, molestation trials, false prophecy ect etc.. interestingly she does not deny these facts and yet still wants to continue as a jw.. i told her that god is not happy with people knowingly being part of a false prophet (deut 18 - etc) - starting to lay the groundwork for my exit.. she appreciates the difficult situation doubters are in - they cannot openly express their feelings for fear of jcs.. anyway, a few weeks ago we moved house which meant changing congregation.. but i felt it would be best if i did not attend meetings " at all" at the new cong so my fade could be easier.. but i could not have predicted my wifes response - when i told her it was an explosion of emotion, i mean real heartbreaker stuff.. she seems depressed at the prospect, perhaps the reality is finally hitting home.. last night, about 3a.m.

  i noticed that she was not in bed.

  i went downstairs and she was sobbing away to herself.. "i can't go to that hall myself!

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  This is going to sound harsh, but if I would 'stick my ground' and refuse to go. If she's crying because she doesn't know anyone, then tough...they're her 'brothers and sisters', the 'Happiest people on Earth' etc, etc....if she's frightened of her 'own', she's going to be in real trouble under 'persecution'. Nothing to do with 'confidence'...all she needs to do is pray to 'Jehovah' for help, YOU'RE not stopping her attending.

  If you attend now, you'll see her smile and confident, THEN you won't be able to stop attending.
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  Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  shropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.

  features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.

  yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.

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  Well written Nathan! Have you had a reply? Has anyone else emailed Mr Thomas? I emailed him yesterday, re this story, and received an email back from him this morning
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  Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  shropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.

  features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.

  yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.

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  Just a reminder - in the wake of Emma Gough's death last October, Paul Gillies appeared on morning TV (here in UK) live defending her decision. He stated that it was solely Emma's decision, as an adult, to refuse blood...and that 'we only Baptise as adults' (and we all know THAT'S a lie - but something maybe Joe Public would believe). I wonder how old Emma Gough was when she was baptised...?
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  JW DIES 'FAITHFUL TO THE BORG' INQUEST/ NEW ARTICLE

  by Latte in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jehovah's witness who refused blood transfusion after giving birth died 'faithful to her god', inquest hears .

  <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557851&in_page_id=1770> .

  by andy dolan - more by this author last updated at 16:58pm on 7th april 2008 .

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  Thanks for the update Latte
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  Jw's and funerals

  by One true Jesus Freak in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a thoughtful question.

  when a jw dies and there is a funeral or memorial for them, just how much of that person is 'remembered" or talked about?

  do they just have a funeral service for them, or do they turn the memorial into a wt study?

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  One True...this may interest you...

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/111979/1.ashx
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  Jw's and funerals

  by One true Jesus Freak in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a thoughtful question.

  when a jw dies and there is a funeral or memorial for them, just how much of that person is 'remembered" or talked about?

  do they just have a funeral service for them, or do they turn the memorial into a wt study?

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  As I recall, the only time the deceased is mentioned (briefly) is in relation to the WT (they knew it was the Truth, faithful etc etc)...nothing about their life outside of the Org.
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  Door-to-door JW's rang my bell today.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so i live in a predominantly spanish neighborhood.

  i primarily speak english.. i am not listed on the terrritory cards that i know of, but i should be because i .

  have answered the door and told them i was already a jw in xxxx (foreign lang.).

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  I was leaving some literature with folks today, but I don't
  have anything in English for you, so have a good day.

  Says it all really...it's all about peddling Watchtower crap, not spreading any 'lifesaving message' as I'd think (in a mixed neighbourhood) he would have been carrying an English Bible from which he could have 'shared' a thought/Scripture.
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  Worst Kingdom Melody lyrics- your votes?

  by JimmyPage in

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  my votes for worst kingdom melody lyrics: song 125- "jehovah is on my side" (try singing these lyrics without laughing like beavis and butthead): "i know that in this crucial hour my faith will yet be tested/ around me swarms the devil's crowd like bees that were molested/ but i can ever beat them off beneath divine protection/ on those who love to bear his name god sets his deep affection.

  " or how about song 201- "rejoicing with god's nation" (grab your thesaurus for this one): "in a land so good and spacious/ free from strife and things vexatious/ look!

  a happy crowd vivacious/ in god's service that is efficacious.

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  Ooops, sorry Peppermint, I posted the wrong one...got my digits mixed up, lol..

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr0oEs_4Ijc

  there are quite a few renditions of Kingdom songs on You Tube...lots of gushing comments posted too ...I still can't get over the molested bees
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  Worst Kingdom Melody lyrics- your votes?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my votes for worst kingdom melody lyrics: song 125- "jehovah is on my side" (try singing these lyrics without laughing like beavis and butthead): "i know that in this crucial hour my faith will yet be tested/ around me swarms the devil's crowd like bees that were molested/ but i can ever beat them off beneath divine protection/ on those who love to bear his name god sets his deep affection.

  " or how about song 201- "rejoicing with god's nation" (grab your thesaurus for this one): "in a land so good and spacious/ free from strife and things vexatious/ look!

  a happy crowd vivacious/ in god's service that is efficacious.

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  I think I've found 117...shameful, lol..

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5nYS3FhdUU&feature=related