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please post in this thread.
i want to see the three weirdo presidents together in the same place at the same time.. so let's play mad libs.
you remember mad libs?
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the new yorker said the interrogation plan was a highly classified "special access program," or sap, that gave advance approval to kill, capture or interrogate so-called high-value targets in the battle against terror.
such secret methods were used extensively in afghanistan but more sparingly in iraq -- only in the search for former president saddam hussein and weapons of mass destruction.
as the iraqi insurgency grew and more u.s. soldiers died, rumsfeld and defense undersecretary for intelligence stephen cambone expanded the scope to bring the interrogation tactics to abu ghraib, the article said.
Why not just tack this to the thread you already started concerning this matter?
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well..............i have had my hair many colors........as my friends can attest.. today i went black...dark.. so.. what do you all think of the phases of juls.. which color works best on her???
here i am from black.. to blonde and brunettte to auburn.. .
Sassy
The red looks the best IMO.
Cassi
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i am an ex jay dub in the uk.. i was was in 'the lie' for 36 years, spent most of it feeling guilty.. in 93 i started a teaching degree & found that i couldn't kid myself anymore, i haven't been to a meeting since.. it's great to find an ex's site that hasn't got a hidden alternative religious adgenda.. .
simon
PS, how do I get one of those fancy pictures by my name???
Click your profile and download one from the net or upload one from the web.
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i don't think i say anything more forthright than the next on here........ its just that i believe differently.. if i do upset people then i'll go.. if i don't then i'll stay.. scoob
Scooby
I think everyone would fair better if everyone remembered that there are real people behind these screens-- all of who have real feelings. At times many are in circumstances they cannot explain or understand. It goes both ways. I feel for you having your feelings hurt and I hope you are ok. Anyone who has been hurt by anyone.ALL have to focus on the fact that many of us would not say the things we do here in real life. Why do we feel it's ok to do so here in this one dimensial world?
I'm glad your staying.
Cassi
all men over forty should have their prostate examined regularly, especially those who view pornography without ejaculation.
*** g90 4/8 27 the prostate and its problems ***.
bible?s moral standard a protection.
Freddy: "No, I missed that. I hard that it was really good though..."
NN
Typo or.....
Cassi
here is a link,cut,&paste: .
ibogaine, a naturally occurring alkaloid found in tabernanthe iboga and other plant species of central west africa, was first reported to be effective in interrupting opiate narcotic dependence disorders in u.s. patent 4,499,096 (lotsof, 1985); cocaine dependence disorders in u.s. patent 4.587,243 (lotsof, 1986) and poly-drug dependence disorders in u.s. patent 5,152,994 (lotsof, 1992).
the initial studies demonstrating ibogaine's effects on cocaine and heroin dependence were accomplished in a series of focus group experiments by h. s. lotsof in 1962 and 1963. additional data on the clinical aspects of ibogaine in the treatment of chemical dependence were reported by kaplan (1993), sisko (1993), sanchez-ramos & mash (1994), sheppard (1994), judd (1994) and mash et al.
By abuse do you mean just using it please explain?
No, sorry I don't mean just using it. I mean those who have a great need for the drug and use it at times when they should not i.e. while operating heavy machinery, caring for children etc.
You ask that I provide examples of abuse. I can tell you what I've witnessed. Those who I know personally, those who I attended many (probably too many LOL) a Grateful Dead concert with years ago.
I can tell you where they were then and they remain there stagnet in their lives, always expounding upon their sorrows due to lack of money or job because they have not shown up once again because they dropped the night before, the eternal search for the next hit. Those who have lost custody of their children due to abuse because of lack of sleep for days on end ( due to tripping) and then becoming easily angered at their children.
The list goes on. This is why I said those who abuse the drugs not those who use from time to time.
Cassi
i'm talkin' 'bout a john wayne round house with all the weight behind it.
wham!
elmer
source: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1135256,00.html
liberals, hmmrppphh!
yiz
May 2, 2004 Seven Iraqis die in British custody. How many soldiers are charged? None The Independent (UK) It is a year and two days since Ather Karen al-Mowafakia died in British custody in Basra. During the next five months another six men died while in the custody of British soldiers.DH
This is not the first incident to involve the Queen's Lancashire Regiment and allegations of brutality. Andrew Johnson and Severin Carrell report
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02 May 2004
Amid the furore caused by yesterday's publication of photographs showing British troops abusing Iraqi prisoners were claims by the Ministry of Defence and General Sir Michael Jackson, the Chief of the General Staff, that the photographs were of an isolated incident caused by the "ill discipline of a few soldiers".
But it is a year and two days since Ather Karen al-Mowafakia died in British custody in Basra. During the next five months another six men died while in the custody of British soldiers.
And it is four months since the first details of these deaths first emerged in The Independent on Sunday, when our Middle East correspondent, Robert Fisk, gave an account of the death of Baha Mousa, 26, a hotel receptionist. Mr Mousa was allegedly beaten to death in September by members of the Queen's Lancashire Regiment - the same regiment shown abusing prisoners in yesterday's photographs. Kifah Taha, a hotel worker arrested at the same time as Mr Mousa and who suffered acute renal failure after being kicked by soldiers during questioning, said each of the Iraqis was given a nickname: "They called us by the names of footballers and kept telling us to repeat them, so we would remember who we were."
A year after the first death, and six months after the last, the Royal Military Police (RMP) is still investigating six cases. No disciplinary action has been taken against any soldier, and no soldier has been charged, although in the case of Mr Mousa possible manslaughter charges are being considered by the Army Prosecuting Authority.
Frustrated at this lack of progress, Mr Mousa's father, Colonel Daoud Mousa, a senior police officer, has decided to go to the High Court in London on Wednesday to seek compensation and a full judicial inquiry into his son's death. It is the first case of its kind involving British forces in Iraq. The failure to clear up the cases quickly led to charges yesterday that the MoD was involved in a "cover up". The other six cases are:
* Ather Karen al-Mowafakia, who died on 29 April. No more is known about him.
* Radhi Natna, who died on 8 May. The RMP investigation concluded that he died from natural causes after a heart attack and that no further action needed to be taken. But his family says that he had no history of heart trouble, and questions remain over his treatment.
* Ahmad Jabber Kareem Ali, 17, also died on 8 May. According to his friend Ayad Salim Hanoon, the two were arrested in Basra by British troops, taken to the Shatt al-Basra waterway and ordered to swim across. Ayad said: "We reached the deepest point but Ahmad couldn't swim. He sank and I couldn't find him."
* Abd Al Jubba Mousa, 53, a headmaster, died on 17 May. He was seen being beaten with rifle butts as he was led away by British troops.
* Said Shabram died on 24 May. Nothing more is known about him.
* Hassan Abbad Said, died on 4 August. Nothing more is known about him.
Details of the seven men who died only emerged through a series of questions tabled by the Plaid Cymru MP Adam Price following Robert Fisk's report in September. Yesterday Mr Price said: "How can the Ministry of Defence be surprised about these photographs? These allegations about the Queen's Lancashire Regiment have been in the public domain for six months. Clearly there has been disgusting treatment by a small minority of soldiers.
"But what seems to have happened is that there has been a cover up by people higher up in the hierarchy of the Army. The deaths in custody happened over a period of five months, involving different regiments. The pattern of abuse has been similar ... To say this is an isolated incident is wrong. Seven people have lost their lives. No one has been charged one year on."
The regiments involved in allegations of abuse include the Royal Fusiliers and Black Watch, as well as the QLR.
Further evidence of brutality by British troops is included in a report published by Amnesty International. It said: "Many detainees have alleged they were tortured and ill-treated by US and UK troops during interrogation. Methods often reported include prolonged sleep deprivation; beatings; prolonged restraint in painful positions, sometimes combined with exposure to loud music; prolonged hooding and exposure to bright lights. Virtually none of the allegations of torture or ill-treatment has been adequately investigated."
It quotes the case of Abdallah Khudran al-Shamran, a Saudi Arabian national, who claimed he was threatened with execution by a British officer while in hospital in Basra where he was recovering from beatings and electric shocks administered by the Americans.
Yesterday's photographs were not the first to shock the British public. Eleven months ago photographs showing Iraqi prisoners strung up in a net from a fork lift truck were published in The Sun. Again the investigation launched by the Ministry of Defence into the soldiers who were allegedly involved, including Gary Bartlam, 18, of the Royal Fusiliers, has not been completed.
A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said this week that some soldiers were facing charges but the Army Prosecuting Authority had not yet decided whether or not the charges should be brought. They are believed to involve indecent and cruel conduct. But the soldiers are still serving, some in Kosovo.
The MoD has consistently denied that hoods are routinely used against Iraqi prisoners. But last month the Defence minister Adam Ingram did admit that, "members of the armed forces may only use blindfolds on apprehended individuals for reasons of operation security, such as when there is movement through military-sensitive areas."
Little is known about the seven men who died. The MoD is refusing to release any personal details, such as age or occupation. Mr Ingram has admitted that even the cause of death is not in the scope of the RMP inquiries. http://clanforum.cyaccess.com/YaBB.pl?board=cl_war;action=display;num=1083498227
If you need I'll post more articles ok? At least the US Government is charging the idiots who abused prisoners. The British government seems to ignore the abuse by not charging a single person. This story has so many of the same details, charges of coverup etc, etc...
Cassi, amazed again at those who live in glass houses!
can't get the formatting right....gerrrrrrrr
source: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1135256,00.html
liberals, hmmrppphh!
yiz
glad to read this. i'm sure other people will elaborate more with views, i'm just glad to see that british army standards have been proved higher than those of some other countries.
LMAO You truly believe this? That is so sad. Please go do some reading it may help you cope with reality. Cassi