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  2034 - A Future History of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by slimboyfat in

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  i don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.

  back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.

  those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.

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  I doubt they would ever explicitly state a date, but I'm sure they have been tempted to at least "hint" at one.

  So far they've resisted the urge.

  However, they have explicitly stated, and more than once, that the GT must come before the current crop of GBers die off. The only one under age 60 is Sanderson, but his obesity will shorten his life unless he starts taking significant action soon. The other guys are in their 60's & 70's with Herd in his mid-80's. So the implication is that the end "must come" within 15-20 years....so 2034-2039.

  Hmmm...come to think of it, maybe they are "hinting" at a date after all.
  
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  What The Fossils Say

  by cofty in

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  the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.

  if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.

  the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.

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  7.77 million species of animals

  Noah, upon reading this: "I'm gonna need a bigger boat"
  
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  2019-11-25-BOE--Watchtower Wants More Money!

  by Atlantis in

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  2019-11-25-boe.

  donations in support of kingdom interests worldwidehttps://docdro.id/mqpxklf petra!

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  Also, in the USA most charities send out requests for donations at this time of the year.
  

  Obviously, in virtually no sense of the word is Watchtower a "charity", but they are considered as such for tax purposes.

  The Watchtower always makes a pitch for donations in November, just before the end of the year, trying to snare donations from the handful of wealthy JWs around who want to increase their charitable giving before the end of the year so as to get a tax break.

  Most JWs of course live paycheck to paycheck and certainly don't itemize their deductions, but what few "big time" donors there are, are mostly living in the USA. So every year they send out the reminder "give us money so you can have a slightly smaller tax bill" directed primarily at that elite group.
  
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  Dropped my family off at the thought control assembly 🙄

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  well that's my family dropped off at the assembly for their mind control charge up.

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  from what my 2 sisters (non witnesses) in ireland said about my mother (pioneer) after her assembly, was that she seemed to more fanatical and that they couldn't change the subject as obsessed with the end etc.. i hope their mind control coercive talks don't have too much impact on my family.

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  Assemblies psych people up for a couple of months and then everything gets back to normal.

  That's awfully generous.

  In my experience, the "spiritual high" lasted less than a week - by the time the next regularly-scheduled Kingdom Hall meeting finished, everything was back to the same ol' drudgery, tedium, and mind-numbing routine.
  
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  Hypocritical elders

  by JimmyYoung in

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  i used to work with an elder every day for several years.

  one thing that helped me out of the cult was his hypocrisy.

  our work was in construction and it would often run us late for meetings.

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  "Hypocritical elder"?

  Isn't that like saying "wet water" or "alcoholic whiskey"?
  
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  How can the New World Translation be the ''finest Bible translation'' without containing any errors?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  here is a photo and article where the governing body claims that the new world bible translation committee and jehovah's ''spirit-begotten sons'' wrote the finest bible translation available to mankind.

  the watchtower—study edition | february 2017.

  “who really is the faithful and discreet slave?”.

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  Well, they are definitely masters at weasel words.

  Still, I don't read any hint of them claiming an "error-free" translation.
  
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  The day G. presented a talk about the tricks of Rutherford

  by Gorbatchov in

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  today i rememberd the evening i presented a talk at the kh school from the proclamers book.

  it was about the conflicts of rutherford.

  i decided to speak the truth about the ugly tricks of this president.

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  JW's don't like to read thick books

  LOL - this is perfect.

  The thicker the JW, the thinner he likes his books.

  The God's Kingdom Rules book from 2014 in essence replaced the Proclaimers book as the approved JW modern-day-history book. It completely skipped over the embarrassing parts of the Proclaimers book (and yes, it is thinner).
  
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  How can the New World Translation be the ''finest Bible translation'' without containing any errors?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. bible

  here is a photo and article where the governing body claims that the new world bible translation committee and jehovah's ''spirit-begotten sons'' wrote the finest bible translation available to mankind.

  the watchtower—study edition | february 2017.

  “who really is the faithful and discreet slave?”.

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  Maybe I missed, but where do they claim that the NWT "does not contain any errors"?

  "Finest" is not synonymous with "perfect" or "error-free".
  
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  BAD, BAD Christendom - the coal calling the kettle black!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  w02 12/1 p. 3 giving until it hurts - “organized religion seems to be able to survive only with sizable financial support.

  (lol – aren't jw's an “organized religion, and how the hell do they survive - on marshmallows?

  )..how is the necessary money to be found?...most likely you agree that giving should be part of christian worship.

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  those who are incapable of critical thinking

  Well, that pretty much sums up...about 99.9% of JWs.

  JWs are repeatedly taught that "critical thinking" is worldly, evil, Satanic.
  
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  How old is old?

  by joey jojo in

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  having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.

  i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

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  Old is "20 years older than I am now". It's been that way for 50+ years