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  Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

  by Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm new to the forum.

  i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

  i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

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  sir82

  JW never thaught that was done in six literal days. It was actually six days of 7000 years each.

  This is interesting.

  The "each creative day lasted exactly 7000 years" idea has not appeared in print for over 30 years. It was taught in Gilead classes as recently as 15 years ago, but in any event, it is not at all a current JW teaching. They are now purposely vague about each day's length, and I've even seen printed references accepting the age of the universe as 13-14 billion years.

  So our new poster seems to be an "old school" JW, or at least was raised by old school JW parents.
  
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  Babylon has fallen...

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  could you guys believe this über borg 'friend' ?.

  he says that babylon has fallen because all of the coronavirus restrictions (and the resultant less revenue) are gonna destroy them symbolically.

  so he thinks this are the last, of the last, of the last days.

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  Delusional people say crazy things. The more delusional they are, the crazier their sayings are, as they try to align reality with their beliefs.
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  My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

  that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

  statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

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  Yeah, there must be a lot of hub-bub about your letter in WTS legal & service now.

  Their primary, well, exclusive, concern is how it will make them (the WTS) look if they announce your name as "no longer a JW" and you end up being elected and might influence some political decisions that affect their work, even if it's just local. They don't give a hoot about you or your lifelong service to them, it's all about "how bad might we look?"

  Actually, you wouldn't have even had to write the letter, they would have considered you "disassociated for non-neutral activity" or whatever the official term is. Of course, 99% of the time, that is only used for people who are caught voting or join the military.
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  Zoom meetings, how long ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering two things, 1: how long in total are the zoom meetings, i presume the sunday one is the longest ?.

  and 2: if you use zoom for free, the session only lasts 40 minutes, so do they have an intermission so people can log back in, or are all jw's expected to pay for the "privilege" ?.

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  sir82

  The WTS bought a "package" of professional licenses, they have assigned one or 2 per congregation in the US. Meetings are run on the professional / premium / whatever its called installation.

  Some uber-dubs have purchased the upgraded packages for themselves anyway, so they can host extra long shepherding calls or meetings for service or whatnot.
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  Ah what the hey, I'll post this too.

  Happy weekend everyone!

  https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/708658?unlock=XZMW5BGIJVUT6MJF

  Republicans are inching closer to a political wipeout, losing complete control of power in Washington. The way things are going, the 2018 midterms may end up looking like a GOP high water mark.

  Internal Republican divisions are also beginning to emerge, in ways that suggest the party is already looking ahead to a post-Trump future.

  This is the sign of a political death spiral. At this point, Republicans would be content to suffer through another blue-wave election, holding out hope the Senate could remain narrowly in Republican hands. Right now, Republicans are staring at the reality of a historic tsunami, wiping out all their avenues of power in a rebuke against a hapless president.

  And, yes, I know....the election is 3+ months away and "anything can happen". But eventually you run out of time from "it's still early".
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  And team Trump's miserable ratings continue to drag down Senate races:

  https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/senate-overview/almost-100-days-out-democrats-are-favored-take-back-senate

  Almost 100 Days Out, Democrats Are Favored to Take Back the Senate

  “Something remarkable would have to happen for Republicans to still have control of the Senate after November,” remarked one GOP pollster. “It’s grim. There’s just so many places where Democrats either have the upper hand or are competitive in states that six months ago we wouldn’t have considered at risk.”

  July Ratings Changes:
  Arizona: Martha McSally (R) — Toss Up → Lean D
  Iowa: Joni Ernst (R) — Lean R → Toss Up
  Georgia: David Perdue (R) — Lean R → Toss Up
  Minnesota: Tina Smith (D) — Likely D → Solid D
  New Mexico: OPEN (Udall) — Likely D → Solid D

  It is increasingly likely that Democrats will control the executive branch and both houses of Congress next year.

  I continue to expect McConnell & co. to begin their retreat from Trump, most likely soon after Labor Day if things continue as they are. I.e., by my reckoning, team Trump has about 6 weeks to turn things around before the "abandon ship!" call is made.
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  sir82

  Are you suggesting that claiming to "ace" a dementia test and being able to successfully tell an elephant from a camel might not reassure undecided voters of your mental acuity?

  Who'da thunk it?
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  And some more bad news for team Trump at the end of the week, from former favorite Fox:

  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-tops-trump-in-battlegrounds-michigan-minnesota-pennsylvania

  3 key battleground states:

  Biden maintains his lead in Michigan, topping Trump by 9 points, 49-40 percent.

  
  (Minnesota) That puts Biden up by 13 points in the presidential race, 51 percent to Trump’s 38 percent.

  (Pennsylvania) Biden is ahead of Trump by 50-39 percent in the Keystone State.

  Week after week after week after week after week, the news is unrelentingly horrific for the Trump campaign. "Secret Trump voters" (if such exist) are not enough to overcome such gaping deficits.

  For the folks who complain about "biased polling", is even Fox News misrepresenting the results by not selecting a truly random sample?

  
  
  
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  2020 Convention Friday Highlights: Information Control and Hypocrisy

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there's yet another talk to add to the list of talks written specifically for damage control against "apostates".

  the speaker says, "some who were once part of the christian congregation attempt to mislead us", that they tell "false accusations" & "lies".

  to combat this, he says that you should "protect your ears from damaging noise by not listening to it", comparing it to wearing "noise canceling headphones".

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  I like how they tell you to "stand and sing song number garbledy-garble" during the "intermission".

  I can tell you EX-ACT-LY which uber-dubs, dressed up in suits & dresses, including dress shoes, while watching the convention in their own living room on their own TV, with no one else around, actually (fer the luv-a-gawd) STAND UP to sing.

  And who then "remain standing while the announcements are read".
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  The first bad news for team Trump this week:

  https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

  Overall, 36% of Americans say that they approve of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president, 60% disapprove, and 4% are undecided.

  That's a net -24 (36 - 60). Three months ago it was -14 (41 - 55).

  The numbers continue to get worse and worse for him every passing week.

  Wonder how today's campaign rally, oops, Coronavirus briefing, will go.