Posts by sir82

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Care packages from "The Branch"

by DwainBowman in

i'm sorry, i didn't see that someone had already posted about this!!.

i just love the special relief packages that are being provided by "the branch" it's such a "loving provision".

funny how they leave out that it's not costing them a dime, but is being given to them, to pass out!.

sir82

Yes, the elders are telling the publishers to view these boxes of vegetables as "Jehovah's loving provision"!

Apparently, Jehovah motivated the US Congress and the USDA to act:

https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2020/04/17/usda-announces-coronavirus-food-assistance-program

I thought Jehovah didn't get involved in political affairs....no wait, it's that he is using only one organization in all the earth today....no wait, that's not right....give me a sec to figure out how this is "Jehovah's loving provision"....

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Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

are we headed towards a dictatorship?

sir82

From the "bleedin' obvious" department:

What did Trump start tweeting horse pucky about "delaying elections"?

Here is the reason:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-economy-gdp-report-second-quarter-coronavirus-11596061406

U.S. Economy Contracted at Record Rate Last Quarter; Jobless Claims Rise to 1.43 Million

If everybody is talking about "delaying the election", no one is talking about a 33% drop in GDP, and the primary thing Trump planned to campaign on was the economy.

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Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

are we headed towards a dictatorship?

sir82

For those of you who won't be triggered or have their eyes melt by reading tweets from a <GASP> UC-Berkely law professor, here is more detailed info:

https://twitter.com/Teri_Kanefield/status/1288829827806408704

Short answer: Constitution says the president's & vice-president's term ends on January 20, 2021, If no elections have been held by that point, Speaker of the House assumes role as president.

I.e., options are (1) hold the election or (2) welcome President Pelosi.

I.e., this is just more bluster.

I like this quote from that thread:

He invents a new crisis with the intention of sending everyone into a panic. It works. Every single time. Predictably, people go into a panic spin. Trump pushes your buttons and you respond.

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Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

are we headed towards a dictatorship?

sir82

Yawn.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/trump-suggests-delaying-election-amid-fraud-claims-but-has-no-power-to-do-so.html

Trump has no power to unilaterally delay elections, which were set for the day after the first Monday in November through a mid-19th century law passed by Congress. Since then, it has never changed, said presidential historian Michael Beschloss.

I'd put this fantasy right behind the "if Trump loses he'll refuse to vacate the White House on January 20" one.

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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

by Parker in

i'm new to the forum.

i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

sir82

We tend happilly to obey humans, accept their weaknesses and injustice but when
it comes to God we become very critical.

I am very critical of any being, be it human or god, who putatively has the power to end the suffering of others yet refuses to do so.

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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

by Parker in

i'm new to the forum.

i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

sir82

You only need to open your eyes and you will see that everything was made by inteligent life. It's just a different form of life we cannot see or understand.

Who made this intelligent life that we cannot see or understand?

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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

by Parker in

i'm new to the forum.

i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

sir82

JW never thaught that was done in six literal days. It was actually six days of 7000 years each.

This is interesting.

The "each creative day lasted exactly 7000 years" idea has not appeared in print for over 30 years. It was taught in Gilead classes as recently as 15 years ago, but in any event, it is not at all a current JW teaching. They are now purposely vague about each day's length, and I've even seen printed references accepting the age of the universe as 13-14 billion years.

So our new poster seems to be an "old school" JW, or at least was raised by old school JW parents.

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Babylon has fallen...

by mikeflood in

could you guys believe this über borg 'friend' ?.

he says that babylon has fallen because all of the coronavirus restrictions (and the resultant less revenue) are gonna destroy them symbolically.

so he thinks this are the last, of the last, of the last days.

sir82

Delusional people say crazy things. The more delusional they are, the crazier their sayings are, as they try to align reality with their beliefs.

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My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

by James Jack in

dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

sir82

Yeah, there must be a lot of hub-bub about your letter in WTS legal & service now.

Their primary, well, exclusive, concern is how it will make them (the WTS) look if they announce your name as "no longer a JW" and you end up being elected and might influence some political decisions that affect their work, even if it's just local. They don't give a hoot about you or your lifelong service to them, it's all about "how bad might we look?"

Actually, you wouldn't have even had to write the letter, they would have considered you "disassociated for non-neutral activity" or whatever the official term is. Of course, 99% of the time, that is only used for people who are caught voting or join the military.

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Zoom meetings, how long ?

by Phizzy in

i was wondering two things, 1: how long in total are the zoom meetings, i presume the sunday one is the longest ?.

and 2: if you use zoom for free, the session only lasts 40 minutes, so do they have an intermission so people can log back in, or are all jw's expected to pay for the "privilege" ?.

sir82

The WTS bought a "package" of professional licenses, they have assigned one or 2 per congregation in the US. Meetings are run on the professional / premium / whatever its called installation.

Some uber-dubs have purchased the upgraded packages for themselves anyway, so they can host extra long shepherding calls or meetings for service or whatnot.