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21The evil apostates are at it again!
by sinis inhttp://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewthread&entryid=12847623&groupid=100447990&adtopicid=27&mytoken=12c38c25-9e72-a8cb-56b5bfe4c5162bce37515265
funny, there whole reason for living is being affected by the 'postates.
they really need to get a life!
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The evil apostates are at it again!
by sinis inhttp://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewthread&entryid=12847623&groupid=100447990&adtopicid=27&mytoken=12c38c25-9e72-a8cb-56b5bfe4c5162bce37515265
funny, there whole reason for living is being affected by the 'postates.
they really need to get a life!
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sinis
Funny, there whole reason for living is being affected by the 'postates. They really need to get a life!
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It's been a while...
by sinis insince i've been over at e-watchmans site.
used to love going over there, but gradually started coming over here as many of the topics (here) had a different answer, etc.
and not the same canned wts crap.
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since I've been over at E-watchmans site. Used to love going over there, but gradually started coming over here as many of the topics (here) had a different answer, etc. and not the same canned WTS crap. I think King is basically serving the same meal but using a different seasoning (WTS uses salt and he's using pepper), for lack of a better analogy. I think he's lost it since he was d-f'd, maybe before
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Who really is Babylon the Great?
by sinis ini know the wts says it is false religion, but if you read daniel, jeremiah, and revelation it shows that babylon the great is actually ruling over the ten kings.
how can "false religion" rule over the kings of the earth?
it seems that babylon the great might actually portray a real government.
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sinis
The author of Revelation himself identifies what Babylon the Great is:
"The woman you saw is (estin) the great city that rules over the kings of the earth" (Revelation 17:18).
Note the present tense. If it wasn't clear already that Babylon = Rome, the author also mentions other unmistakable clues.... a city sitting on seven hills (can only be Rome), a city that is the center of international trade (can only be Rome), including the trade of slaves (again...Rome), and is depicted in a manner strkingly similar to how the patron goddess Roma was depicted in Roman art, as sitting on the seven hills of Rome. The author here parodies this religious depiction as a harlot (she is a harlot because of her trade with the kings of the earth) sitting on a seven-headed beast (seven heads = seven hills in 17:9). The Beast, on the other hand, is not the city but its leadership...its heads represents a succession of seven kings, i.e. emperors (in a double application), while the Beast is itself the eighth king who is "one of the seven"...this is alluding to the Nero redivivus myth which claimed that Nero would return to finish destroying the city (remember that he was blamed for starting the fire that destroyed much of Rome). The Nero redivivus myth was the premier urban legend in the 70s-90s (reported widely by Roman historians and appearing in other Jewish/Christian texts), and is also alluded to elsewhere in Revelation (cf. 13:3, 13:12, which refers to the slain Beast, i.e. slain Nero, coming back to life). The worship of the Beast in ch. 13 is also widely thought to be a reference to the Emperor cult and the prescribed worship of Caesar.
For a more thorough discussion of these matters, see my post below:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/86994/1446479/post.ashx#1446479
Revelation 17:9 does not say seven "hills" but seven "mountains" in the greek interlinear. I see where you are coming from though. As one poster said I guess time will tell. It is interesting though whne you get different ideas. Thanks.
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Who really is Babylon the Great?
by sinis ini know the wts says it is false religion, but if you read daniel, jeremiah, and revelation it shows that babylon the great is actually ruling over the ten kings.
how can "false religion" rule over the kings of the earth?
it seems that babylon the great might actually portray a real government.
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sinis
Also - “And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more—cargoes of gold and silver and precious stones and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly wood and bronze and iron and marble, and cinnamon and spice and incense and perfume and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and cargoes of horses and chariots and slaves and human lives. The fruit you long for has gone from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them. The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls’” (Revelation 18:11-16).
If it were False Religion, how have the merchants become rish from "her"? It would seem vast material consumption is going on. Was not purple the color of kingship in Jesus day?
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Who really is Babylon the Great?
by sinis ini know the wts says it is false religion, but if you read daniel, jeremiah, and revelation it shows that babylon the great is actually ruling over the ten kings.
how can "false religion" rule over the kings of the earth?
it seems that babylon the great might actually portray a real government.
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sinis
Except - "The woman which thou sawest is the great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth." (Rev. 17:18) This indicates rule by authority, no where has religion ruled over kings. That, and it makes no sense that once the "beast" turns on "her" and destroys BTG that the merchants would wail and cry only to have the "beast" eventually set up a system of commerce. Please don't tell me the traditional WTS crap that the gov't turns on "false religion" and bans it and thus the merchants crying are because no one will buy there Christmas crap.
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Who really is Babylon the Great?
by sinis ini know the wts says it is false religion, but if you read daniel, jeremiah, and revelation it shows that babylon the great is actually ruling over the ten kings.
how can "false religion" rule over the kings of the earth?
it seems that babylon the great might actually portray a real government.
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So who is the beast that destroyed Rome?
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Who Wants to Write a #4 talk?
by RichieRich ini've got the #4 tommorrow night about why violent video games are not for christians.
if you think you can seriously write the talk well, with scriptures, write it, and i'll give it.
its tommorrow and i have no clue!!!
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sinis
Why not mention that the Japanese have very few violent episodes in there culture yet they make and use some of the most violent games today. Gee, I wonder why little Komoto isn't running around killing people from a video game like the infidel americans are? That talk is another weak attempt of the GB to control people. Do yourself a favor and bow out at the last minute
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Who really is Babylon the Great?
by sinis ini know the wts says it is false religion, but if you read daniel, jeremiah, and revelation it shows that babylon the great is actually ruling over the ten kings.
how can "false religion" rule over the kings of the earth?
it seems that babylon the great might actually portray a real government.
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sinis
I know the WTS says it is false religion, but if you read Daniel, Jeremiah, and Revelation it shows that Babylon the Great is actually ruling over the ten kings. How can "false religion" rule over the kings of the earth? It seems that Babylon the Great might actually portray a real government. Could BTG be the U.S. as America does rule over many waters and is made up of many nationalites. We are also materialistic and consume many of the worlds goods, thus when the beast turns on it the merchants weep since no one is around to buy the goods. That and our entertainment can be construed as adulturous to many in the world. Any thoughts?
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MySpace
by sinis ini see where they changed it to "feel good inc".
looks like you can't access anything unless you are registered.
i wonder if this is in response to the jw gestapo coming down on them.
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sinis
I see where they changed it to "Feel Good Inc". Looks like you can't access anything unless you are registered. I wonder if this is in response to the JW Gestapo coming down on them.