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  Are Elders who "step down" different?

  by Cautious in

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  i have a query regarding elders.

  nothing derogatory, it is just something that i have been wondering about for years.. it has seemed to me for a while that the elders are a little like politicians.

  they can have all the good intentions in the world, but the systems will get to them anyway.

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  Don't give up Reagan

  Your dad is just not used to using his brain properly. Something could happen, one little thing, that makes him start to think for himself. It has happened to a few before, from what I've read in the experiences.

  Cheers
  Cautious
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  My Daughter's Words to Me

  by Undecided in

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  i just came from my daughter's(step daughter)home and she said something that almost made me cry.

  i go up to her house and help her with different things, like watching emily while she goes to therapy for her back.

  she was in a car accident recently.

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  Sounds like you are a great Father Undecided.

  Thanks for sharing it with us ...

  "There is no fellowhsip, no love, like that of the parent for the child" Henry Ward Beecher

  Edited by Cautious because she still can't get the syntax right so took it out
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  Re: YES I DO

  by ladonna in

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  i win......yes i do .

  love,.

  hugs.

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  Slip, Ilike your new quote, even though I am a little put-out though, I was going to use it myself today

  I thought it was a good reference to the truth about "the troof"

  Cheers
  Cautious
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  HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

  by waiting in

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  2. experiences

  simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

  " how mundane!.

  fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

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  Missy, your "gut" is right. They teach you to do that sort of stuff. They are always trying to get a new convert - it is what they have been taught to do and it looks good for them if they can do it!

  As Outnfree said, your husband will try to "save" you and your children. Did he go away for the convention? Did you get your space? Sounds like you really need it.

  Have a read through the main board - you might get some pointers from other posters there.

  Take care
  Cautious
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  Could it be so simple? Truth via so much fear?

  by Celtic in

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  as i look upon the life journey to date i cannot help but wonder why things have to be as complicated as they are.. life throughout the jw experience was complicated, at least for me it was.. here i am thinking about love.

  i find it almost derisory that an organisation teaching truth does so through the gradual instillment of untold fears, threats of punishment if one does not comply and here were not just talking about punishment in that sense of the word but spiritual punishment, persecution, which, connotations used to be, a living day/nightmare.. so enough of doom and gloom, fear, punishment, threats etc.

  maybe its not just me who has come to the conclusion that love really couldn't work with something like that and at least now, i feel far happier for focussing my directions elsewhere from the wt wonky timepeice movement.. i actually feel better than i once was, i can feel the sensation and experience the difference in my outlook on life, its perspectives and an even narrower way forwards.

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  Hi Celtic

  Once upon a time we used to view this world as a place to be endured, to look to the future paradise for happiness. We had take whatever garbage the WTS would throw at us, because we had to for our future.

  However, as you point out so well, ..

  I actually feel better than I once was, I can feel the sensation and experience the difference in my outlook on life, its perspectives and an even narrower way forwards. But I can appreciate as part of my living experience far more of an equilibrium in my resonance now than ever before. I think it might be called, feeling happy.

  .... we learn to enjoy the journey of life itself and be happy NOW.

  Thanks for the thoughts
  Cautious
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  Advice requested on response to mom's letter

  by paulvarjak in

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  i received this recently from my mother.

  the only contact i've had with any of my family since october has been an occasional email.

  you are 28 years old and you made the choice to put yourself, and us, in this position.

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  Hi Paulvarjak

  I have to agree with Silentlambs observation – they will use any leverage they can to get to you, use the guilt trip more and more if you let them. It is pre-programmed, they are just reacting the way they have been taught to. I guess the intelligent thing is to be pro-active, IMO. Don't let them insult your intelligence, the WTS tells its people they are intelligent and well informed. But that is just to keep them on the straight and very narrow. In reality they are being duped and you are not, once again this is my opinion, but one I feel strongly about.

  I tried to keep things calm between my Mum and I when I was df’ed, but in reality it only made things worse. I had to be straight with her for both our sakes. I know this because she has very recently seen the light and left the Borg and told me herself.

  I’m sure it will work out
  Cautious (because I’m not going to be duped so easily again)
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  new to this db

  by exodus in

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  i'm new on this board.

  i hope to share my own experience on how i'm exiting out of this org.

  pls stay tune for more.

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  Hi Exodus - please hurry. I have such trouble waiting for the next episode .

  Welcome, and hope you enjoy your stay.

  Cautious - because I don't want to be taken for a ride again
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  Are Elders who "step down" different?

  by Cautious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a query regarding elders.

  nothing derogatory, it is just something that i have been wondering about for years.. it has seemed to me for a while that the elders are a little like politicians.

  they can have all the good intentions in the world, but the systems will get to them anyway.

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  Amazingthanks for the reply. It confirms that at least some elders do realise that there are problems in the system.

  OzziepostGood point. I personally don't like the term "stepping down" either, I only used it because that is what I remember being used.

  JT - thanks for the update, I guess I'm a little out of date, haven't been to the meetings for a while.

  slipnslidemaster wouldn't that be a form of gossiping? The JWs don't do that![8>]

  Thanks all
  Cautious - who edited this because she still hasn't got the syntax right
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  Are Elders who "step down" different?

  by Cautious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a query regarding elders.

  nothing derogatory, it is just something that i have been wondering about for years.. it has seemed to me for a while that the elders are a little like politicians.

  they can have all the good intentions in the world, but the systems will get to them anyway.

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  Cautious

  I have a query regarding elders. Nothing derogatory, it is just something that I have been wondering about for years.

  It has seemed to me for a while that the elders are a little like politicians. They can have all the good intentions in the world, but the systems will get to them anyway. They either become corrupted by the system or they leave it.

  We had family friends become elders, men who seemed to me to be caring people, who seemed to me to really want to help people. Most of them “stepped down” eventually. We had other friends who were appointed elders, and they seemed to change personality, become just like the other established elders and, and treat their old friends as mere acquaintances.

  I realise that I am looking at this as an outsider, neither my father nor my husband were ever elders, which is the closest a good subjective female JW seems to get to this issue. I also realise that my experiences is limited to a few congregations. However, I genuinely would like to know if there is any truth in this observation.

  Thanks
  Cautious
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  HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

  " how mundane!.

  fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

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  Hi All

  I hope I can hear more from you soon. I still consider myself a newbie here too, but haven't had any trouble jumping in. (Mind you, there are some posters who who I don't bother with, but I think you would know who they are .)

  Missy, you must be going through some trying times. I'm sure you'll get a lot of support here.

  Cautious