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  I'm starting a Counter-Watchtower magazine

  by Counter-Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  im starting a counter-watchtower magazine for everyone to give to their jw friends and family or just to give to those that come to your door.

  the first issue is about the history of pyramidology of c.t.

  russel and under the start of rutherford along with some other things like pointing out the fact that no one knows the translators of the nwt or writers of the watchtower, "the two very things relied on to teach you".. its writen in such a way to be very repectful but to make the reader think, and hopefully the light come on.

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  skin

  This reminds me of the magazines called Witchtower.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/196953/witchtower-08-2010-scriptural-questions-answered
  
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  October 1, 1914 -- October 1, 2017

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  “october 1, 1914, on taking his place at the breakfast table in the brooklyn bethel dining-room, he in a strong voice denoting conviction announced: “the gentile times have ended!” “ – watchtower july 15, 1950 page 216 paragraph 1. .

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  skin

  "The Kings have had their day". For those that are fully in the org, this statement is a clear sign that Russell knew what he was talking about. But for everyone else, It is, what is he talking about? Who are these Kings that had their day in 1914? Got to remember too, that at this time, Russell was still fully convinced that the destruction of all ungodly men was going to take place before the end of 1914.
  
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  Two coins of little value? Ok! Sure (!)

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item.

  in which having told the audience that wt doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.. among the usual scriptures cited "honor god with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value..".

  and it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the uk would be two one penny coins!

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  skin

  They already do have a form of mandatory tithing, each month the congregations are expected to send $xxx to the branch to cover a form of rent for the hall in which they already own. 18 months ago now our congregation got a rather rude letter from the branch because as a congregation, for 2 consecutive months, we failed to meet that $xxx amount that had been pledged to them. We had to make up this shortfall by giving them a donating from the congregation local account which is only there to cover the basic running costs.
  
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  Baptism statistics from CO

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just went to the assembly yesterday and during the final talk the circuit overseer said:.

  'sure, there are some adults baptised here and there, but do you want to know something wonderful?

  the vast majority of those getting baptized are teens and preteens!

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  skin

  Same has Steve2 above, I went to the Christchurch New Zealand convention, 3000 in attendance about 15 baptized, 20 plus years ago the baptism numbers at this convention were always 60+.

  When the attendance announcement of 2960 was made on the first day, there was an obvious pause before the traditional clapping started, I believe most people were shocked to hear a sub 3000 attendant figure, all these years we keep getting told that Jehovahs organization is on the increase, but our conventions just keep decreasing in attendance.
  
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  Is this a World Wide Pattern?

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hundreds baptized at jehovah's witness convention.

  at first sight this afican rc looks as though it's acheiving the quantity of baptisms of another era.

  348 is a substantilal number and impressive until you see the sunday attendance 28,300. so a baptism rate of 1.2%, in africa.

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  skin

  20 years ago at our conventions there were 3500 + in attendance with more than 60 getting baptized. The last convention attendance had dropped to under 3000 and only 13 baptized. No change in territory boundaries.
  
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  JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

  just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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  skin

  History lesson:

  Can you please tell me, in about what year did the organization first start proclaiming that the year 1914 was the start of the last days?

  or a more leading question could be.
  

  Leading up to 1914, how many years before 1914 had Charles Russell and the International Bible Students been teaching that the heavenly kingdom was going to be established in 1914?
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  Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well.....they showed that shunning video again.

  you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

  everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

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  skin

  With all this shunning taking place toward her. At one point Sonia says something like "I almost blamed my parents or God for my situation".

  Why would she not include blaming the GB for her situation? That's right, the GB wrote this video, and they can't have them suggesting that they themselves are the cause. But writing into the script that God could be blamed? even suggesting that God could be to blamed is pretty rude.
  
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  Sunday's W.T angered me + I found an ironic scripture

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during the "do you love me more than these" watchtower study on sunday, i got so angry on many occasions, hearing people make comments like "if you enjoy your job, you're an enemy of jehovah" and "the only reason we're here is to preach.

  work and relaxation only exist to help us to preach".. the paragraph talking about the "do more!

  " attitude in the world getting people down really got me down just reading it, as it applies so much to the borg.. i also found the ecclesiastes scripture quoted to be ironic, as the rest of the article tells is that nothing is better or more of a priority than to preach;.

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  skin

  This whole WT study was based on this verse, “‘Cast the net on the right side of the boat
  and you will find some fish.’ So they cast it, but they were not able
  to haul it in because of the large number of fish.”—John 21:1-6. Next Jesus says “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?” To what was Jesus referring? Peter was quite attached to fishing. So it seems that Jesus was asking him where his true affection lay. Did he have greater affection for
  the fish and the fishing business than for Jesus and the things
  that he taught?

  So this whole anti work study is based around these fish symbolizing time wasting activities?
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  JW Definition of "Apostate"

  by Saename in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so recently, after having a conversation with a jehovah's witness, i started wondering about how jws define the term "apostate.

  " officially, every elder would tell you that an apostate is one who leaves the jehovah's witness faith.

  but did anyone else notice that this is not how they use the word colloquially—that they're sort of dishonest about it?.

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  skin

  A search for the word Apostate in the Bible shows that where the word “Godless” is used, a footnote for meaning apostate has been added, ie Pro 11:9, Job 36:13.

  The word apostate isn’t found in the Greek Scriptures and only found 4 times in the Hebrew Scriptures.
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  Jehovah's people are not happy people

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

  i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

  i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

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  skin

  Being told at the meetings that Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth, then look around the hall at everyone and realize that there is no happiness showing on their faces. Being told at the meetings that worldly people are the unhappy ones, (we have to believe that because the GB say so), but then everyday experience's outside JWs show worldly people to be mostly very happy with their life's.