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blondie’s comments on the february 12, 2017 wt study (november 2016) (minds on spirit).
The feeling that i got after this wt study was concluded at the meeting today is that when talking to other witnesses, our main subject we are to talk about has to be spiritual. If we talk to much about non WT subjects, then we are not a spiritual person.
Well that leaves me out, the only WT related talk i say is on this web site. And i don't think that counts, if today's WT is to be believed.
in 4 segments because won't post all.. .
segment 1. .
blondie’s comments on the february 12, 2017 wt study (november 2016) (minds on spirit).
Thanks for the review.will wait to hear what nonsense answers will be made during this study.
What are they trying to tell us in para 11? That list of normal every day activities is wrong, so don't do it?
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
Currently both at the book study, and a number of recent Watchtowers are now teaching JWs the modern day rewritten version of their history. Can't have these older books getting in the way of facts.
What part of the world are you in? What day did you mean? I see blonde has quoted 2nd Feb? Maybe you meant 3rd feb?
the other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.
1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.
2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.
At some stage in the future they will drop 1914, they can't keep it alive forever. And when this happens, it will simply be new light and mean nothing to the average JW, except that its a sign that we are even closer to the end.
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i'm interested in finding out what it was that finally enabled you to open your eyes to the real truth of watchtower.
what started me thinking, was the societys very own book...' 'revelation..it's grand climax at hand'.
i found that book farcicle.
For me it was reading the 1927 edition of the "Creation" book by the IBSA, where it tells us that clearly the Bible shows that the last days started in 1799, the Kingdom was est in 1874 and Christ was given rulership of that Kingdom in 1878. Also the "Study of the Scriptures" 1910 edition contained these same dates. How could that be since today we are told by WT that all these events took place in 1914 and that WT had been saying 1914 for almost 40 years before 1914. This was back in 2002 where I raised this issue with another JW who basically accused me of reading apostate books, that floored me and left me speechless on the spot. How could WT lie so brazenly about their past? That starting the cracking of the WT protective shell for me, made me wonder, what if these wicked apostates were also saying this very thing. Finally, with my heart almost pounding out of my chest, looking all around making sure no body was watching, I went to the (what was then) wicked internet for an answer. Sure enough, apostates were telling the truth on this subject, how could that be since according to WT, apostates are the ones that make up lies? Then the flood gates opened on WT.
at least, that is how i see it... the article "the judge of all the earth always does what is right".
paragraph 6 & 7 .
6 consider the experience of willi diehl.
Another thing too, I wonder if there is a bit more to this story than they published. Has anyone heard of anyone else losing privileges because of getting married?
well, very little, to be honest.
the structure and commitment of the ministry provided discipline necessary to my life.
therefore, i did it, as required, and felt some sense of fulfillment at the bible study stage.. i do like talking to people.
Getting good ideas from other peoples property, so I can then do the same with mine.
Oh, yeah, also the good feeling you got when field service was over, that I was told is Jehovah's spirit working.
gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
I've just reread the questions that they ask in para 15.
Who would ever think to ask these questions?
gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
steve2 5 hours ago
One point I am not clear about: Did the Watchtower provide a "rationale" for the changed view of what happened 1918-1919?
Yes, it is because they are looking for a modern day parallel to Exodus 2:23-25. and the 1918 - 1919 date didn't fit in with para 15:
15 Thus far we have seen that true Christians came into Babylonian captivity soon after the death of the last of the apostles. However, a number of questions arise: What additional evidence is there that in the decades leading up to 1914, the anointed were actually breaking free from Babylon the Great, no longer being enslaved by her? Is it true that Jehovah was displeased with his servants because they had slowed down in their preaching activity during World War I? And did some of our brothers during that period compromise their Christian neutrality and thereby incur Jehovah’s displeasure? Finally, if Christians went into bondage to false religion from the second century C.E. onward, when did they get freed? Excellent questions these. They will be answered in the next article.
One question I have. Is there any biblical reason to believe that the events that were recorded in the Bible long ago, are to have another or 2nd fulfillment in our modern day?
