I sometimes use something similar when I hear that "this is the worst time in human history" or somesuch....
..."You'd rather live in the Old West? The Middle Ages? The Roman Empire?
Or any time, anywhere before 1914.
the next time a jw brings up a natural disaster or severe weather event as proof of the last days, and they preface it by reciting a fact they heard on the news like, (just for the sake of example) 'it's the worst earthquake in 70 years' or 'the worst plague in 200' years', (you get the picture), then simply reply: "oh, so that means that ____ years ago there was one that was worse, right?".
i did this twice.
both times got the same response:.
I sometimes use something similar when I hear that "this is the worst time in human history" or somesuch....
..."You'd rather live in the Old West? The Middle Ages? The Roman Empire?
Or any time, anywhere before 1914.
oh rapture!
today's wt caused my wife's first [jw mind control] epiphany and she didn't hesitate to share upon her discovery.
09/16/2018 | "where are your eyes looking?
I'm sure they have changed the ones who write the the WT study in this months mag, at least for these first 2 studies in it. Every WT study mag before this had on average 6 quotes for some witness who lives in some place that had something to say. And then the quote from them that backs up word for word what WT are saying.
Para 18 also had this to say, "At the same time, we will be careful that we “do not go beyond the things that are written.” (1 Cor. 4:6)".
And what is the lesson for us in this photo? from para19.
i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
It was http://quotes.watchtower.ca.
That website was simply showing quotes of various watchtower teachings within their respective context. I remember I watched it as there were no "apostate" comments over them and they were in fact, clearly in their context.
And then, the watchtower had the web site shot down using copyright laws: I was shocked, SHOCKED! How could they shut down a site that simply displayed information that I was giving away for free every Saturday morning?? Besides, I could not imagine that Jesus would have done something similar either.
The same, exactly the same. Although I had already started to wake up (before I had internet access) from reading some pre 1930 WT publications and then being told in the WT study a rewritten version of their history. Why lie about their past? That's right, its not a good look. lets remove our embarrassing past.
what i don’t get, is the agression seen in the latest, september broadcasting.. if something is not usefull here at g.’s home, we look if it can be used for an other purpose or store it or put it away in a trash bin.
that’s what we learn our children.. it seems that for jw.org officials it is practice to get very angry and smash items on the floor.
somehow the real face of brotherhood is showed here.
To watch the famous glass breaking scene , go to 21:10 on this video.
https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/LatestVideos/pub-jwb_201809_1_VIDEO
in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.
just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..
Yes freddo, that is a good point. Thanks.
in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.
just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..
In today's WT study, 9th Sept 2018, para 14. We learnt that Jesus mother, Mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at Penticost. Just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture.
hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.
today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.
they say people in warwick were commenting on this.
stan livedeath 5 hours ago
overlapping 144,000. as each one dies--some other nutter takes their place.
They used that one years ago, example given was that of a soccer team. when someone gets sub-ed off, a new player goes on. but there is always 11 players on the team.
anyone have the attendance numbers/baptism numbers for this?.
i would also be interested to find out the convention attendance stats for new zealand for any year available - so that they can be added to this.. thanks!.
1 of the 10 sisters baptized had to be baptized twice, must of be some technicality on the first attempt, toe or knee coming up out of the water? Could she have been counted twice?
anyone have the attendance numbers/baptism numbers for this?.
i would also be interested to find out the convention attendance stats for new zealand for any year available - so that they can be added to this.. thanks!.
steve2 My hunch is that numbers attending conventions in New Zealand have been slowly declining for a few years now - but I do not have hard evidence to back up my hunch
Your hunch is correct, the chch convention is always a good one to gauge numbers over the years. There is only the one convention for the whole south island, no boundary changes to distort attendance figures. During the 90s attendance was always closer to 4000 with always 60+ being baptized. This year, 3 of the 6 sessions had under 3000 attending.
anyone have the attendance numbers/baptism numbers for this?.
i would also be interested to find out the convention attendance stats for new zealand for any year available - so that they can be added to this.. thanks!.