i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.
memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).
most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!
I'm confused. As far as I know, nothing interesting happened in October 1914.
You said: Those events, in my opinion, confirm, that 1914 was the beginning of the pangs of distressed based on Matt. 24, Luke 21, Mark 13.
Russell himself didn't believe in the interpretation you agree with.
Also, what was so special about 1914 anyways? Has there been an increase in anything (war, famine, crime, disease)?
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sorry how long this is but i found the meeting very exciting.
the short version is i said directly that i do not believe in the wts, feel being d/f is unfair on my jw family so asked them to just leave me alone.
it didn't work.
mark k. tjernell, sep 8, 1946 to feb 15,2002.. obituary .
mark tjernell, author of the story "day one", and owner of his own business, died from electrocution in pierce county, washington, on february 15, 2002. .
tyernell's theocratic fiction "day one", at one time widely distributed on the internet, dealt with one person's experiences during the first few days after armageddon.
Both stories contain elements of gloating. Neither story mentions Jesus (I shouldn't say that, the second story does briefly mention him)
I remember once telling my PO that i felt like we had more in common with the jews than with "christians". He looked at me funny and didn't understand what I meant
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the good news: i just saved a bunch more money on my car insurance by switiching to progressive!
(though i do miss the free talking duck aflac would send me once a year)
the bad news: it has just been announced at the kingdom hall today that as of now the watchtower is being translated into 152 languages instead of what used to be 151.
Has anyone suggested Esperanto yet? Cuz ... THAT would be cool
Interestingly, in the old Publications Index for order literature (I think it was done away with) there WAS a language code for Esperanto. Always wanted to try ordering something.
BTW, weren't those nutty language codes? No ISO standardization there, i mean .... german is X? I'm assuming that was about smuggling literature, and was merely a carryover from those days .. but still nutty
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like so many people, i'm (very carefully)trying to convey the obvious "truth" about the wtb&ts to some of the members of my family.
is there any key point that "stands out" in your memory as pivotal in the opening of your eyes?
or any particular point that may have opened the eyes of your loved ones?
For me, it was a) leaving an abusive marriage and b) challenging 607 BCE, and the response I got back was irrational and emotional. It didn't make sense.
After I got Penton's book, and once I read through that, I could see it was just another religon.
Welcome btw.
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i posted this as a response under another post, but i couldn't resist starting a topic on it...lol.
does this sound familiar to anyone???
when i was a jw, i thought there was nothing cooler than getting up at 7 a.m. on saturday, getting showered, putting on dress clothes, meeting at 8:30 a.m., answering a bunch of phony 'how are you this morning's', watching as people jockey for position in their favorite car groups so that they could be with their friends (because god forbid you get stuck in a car group with someone not in your clique), and miss looney tunes while listening to some lame attempt at a 30-second presentation by brother monotonous, then being sure to get out by 9:00 a.m. 'cuz if you were with brother rule-conscious you couldn't start your time until you knocked on that first door.
You appear to have forgotten about Tim Hortons.
AAaahhh.. Tim Horton's was great. And thankfully, my last bookstudy conductor LOVED tim hortons, so we'ed always go through the drive through at least once.
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and we wonder why our parents/grandparents were so smart, with only an 8th grade education.. .
what it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895. .
5. give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.
i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.
memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).
most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!
If they reject those teaching the truth, then their rejecting both God and Jesus.
After I looked at the 607 BCE stuff, it opened my mind to examining other doctrines and quotes from the society. Its not that they haven't taught truth... its just its intermingled with many things that are false.
So which is more important? Unity or truth? Is it better to be united in an org with some false teachings or better to reject anything wrong, anything false and instead allow love to unite?
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i'm looking for scriptures that you believe a doubting jw would read that would cause them to think a bit.
i have four in mind now: .
'do not go beyond the things that are written.
I think Galatians 1 & 2 blows apart any concept of a FDS and Governing Body pretty effectively.
Let me quote a bit:
Gal 1:1 - Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father
Gal 1:6 - I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel
Gal 1:10 - Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.
Gal 1:15-17 - But when God, who set me apart from birth[a] and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not consult any man, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went immediately into Arabia and later returned to Damascus.
Gal 1:19 - I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord's brother.
Okay, so the dude who wrote most of the Bible didn't consult with the Governing Body. Nice.
Gal 2:4,5 - This matter arose because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might remain with you.
Gal 2:11 - When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. (How often do you correct a member of the governing body? Does anybody?)
Gal 2:19 - I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing! (Do Christians need a giant set of laws?)
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david2002 and i discussed this issue a little bit in a previous thread and agreed to discuss is in another thread.. david2002 i have created the thread but i will leave the first post to you.. please explain your viewpoint on door to door preaching and its biblical foundation.
