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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

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  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  Easy. Just start two others threads on the subject! :) I'll start one on ID, you can start one saying hello and lets talk about the existence of God. :)

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
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  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  Hey Ri, hello. We should really shut down this thread and start a new one of ID, and another one about the logic existence (or non-existence) of God. :)

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  "If a Creator exists, then the Creator is real and there is always evidence of real existence."

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

  In others words, all real things have evidence, there is evidence for the creator, therefore the creator is true.

  I hope I'm getting this right.

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  Is manned space exploration a waste of money?

  by free2beme in

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  i was watching a program the other day, and it mentioned some interesting things about exploring space.

  1. nothing has been found on other planets that we need or would benefit from.

  rather the opposite, we have found hostile environments that would kill us.. 2. the cost to get a man to these places is astronomical, and not something that would reap benefit to our planet.. 3. so far, nothing within reasonable traveling distance has shown itself worth an effort that would require man, and would not be done easier with machine.. so with this in mind, other then the travel we see with the space shuttle in our own orbit, that has shown some medical breakthroughs and so on.

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  All of our genetic eggs are in one basket. Manned space flight is the only solution to this problem.
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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  If God is natural I should be able to test for the existence of God in some measure. How can we go about testing for the existence of God? Basically, outline the test and the expected results.

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  There is a possibility that a Creator exists. There is no evidence for a Creator. These two statements are mutually exclusive, they cannot both be correct. One must be wrong.

  This premise is wrong. Both statements can be true.

  Do you have evidence for a creator?

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  AuldSoul, I don't think you know what supernatural means.

  Look, this entire discussion is pointless. You have no evidence, no tests which can be offered to prove God's existence. I have no evidence of test to prove or disprove God's existence. Just leave it at that, and get on with discussion ID instead of continuing this off-topic discussion.

  And for the record, natural things can be tested. If God becomes a testable part of objective reality, we'll pick that up again then.

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  AuldSoul, you're missing the point. There can be no "objective" evidence for or against the existence of God. You seem be thinking I'm against (or others) the existence of God. I would deride anyone who offered "proof" for the non-existence of God.

  Personal testimonials, for obvious reasons, cannot be considered proof for anything. Personal experiences at best just give us something to think about.

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  AuldSoul, I don't consider them invalid. I don't think you have to be crazy to believe in God, UFOs, homeopathy etc. Believing something because of personal experience as well as other's personal experiences is quite normal. Even people who have profound personal experiences (in this case UFO abduction trauma) respond physiologically the same as people who underwent more concrete trauma.

  The experience can be real to you in every sense that counts. Who am I to validate or invalidate that experience. You don't want to share your experience, thats just fine.

  These experiences though cannot be used to furnish proof in any objective sense, but like I said earlier, belief in God requires faith, and I think thats just fine.

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  So, what evidence do you have for the existence of God?

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