in an effort to speed up downloads of some of our larger files, we've set up many of these files with bittorrents.
for those who don't know what bittorrents are, you can find out more about them on wikipedia.. because of the set-up, we've had to relocate some of the files to different areas in our servers, so some of the 'read online' options that we used to have won't be working the next few days, we'll get it back to the way it was soon though, but also give a couple extra download options.. the latest release is the video, "young people ask, what will i do with my life?
" for those who are interested the bittorrent file is located here:.
Actually, there is a link on the reexamine site called easy download or something along those lines. It downloads the bittorrent software and begins downloading the relevant file for you. (Quite simple)
Opera now supports bittorrent downloads, and the original bittorrent client is quite minimal and simple too.
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schizm, scholar or any other wt defenders, please if you have a topic, like a bible verse, a wt doctrine, a non wt doctrine etc.
start a thread, we will discuss it with you.
but keep the discussion on the subject don't attack people just because they don't agree with you.
On most boards, trolls like PMJ would be banned. Though I understand the argument that he acts as a cautionary example, his all caps no spelling approach is blatant trolling.
Scholar: Wow, more circular that 1914 is right because of 607 and 607 must be right because of 1914?
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using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.
add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.
the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.
Funny, my copy of the book on page 189 says seventeen lines, not eighteen.
Not that I see the point in quibbling how lines of evidence there are, I think a refutation of them would be far more useful.
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has anyone seen this video?
its been posted over on reexamine.
its crazy.
Wow, I haven't watched this in ages. It just makes me wanna blow my brains out. I'm sure one day we'll look back on this like we look back on "The Birth of a Nation".
Honesty, how would you go about picking apart this video for your step daughter?
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has anyone seen this video?
its been posted over on reexamine.
its crazy.
Has anyone seen this video? Its been posted over on reexamine. Its CRAZY. Its full of some many stupid manipulative moments, I can't even being to enumerate them.
Curious if anyone has seen this video and what they think of it.
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as an old timer former jw, i remember well the tobacco prohibition.
when i came in during the mid 50's it was looked down upon.
i'd already started smoking in my early teens and didn't actually quit till i was 20. my motive?
Oh don't get me wrong, I certainly would prefer a non-smoking religion as you put it, than a smoking one. I went through the terrible process of getting someone through a double-lung transplant... someone who has ruined their own lungs from smoking at the age of 47.
I think what I object to is arbitrariness of it. I think many others will also object to simply creating hard and fast rules around it. If its indeed a "principle", let it stay a principle without being enforced as a law. "Attention, this is the elders! Put up your hands and stop smoking in 6 months!"
As for insurance companies looking at your lollipop consumption; if the insurance companies thought they could determine liability via lollipop consumption, they would examine it. Besides which, they already check into weight (a general indication of a lollipop consumption) Per my link earlier, obesity has overtaken smoking in causing heart disease.
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as an old timer former jw, i remember well the tobacco prohibition.
when i came in during the mid 50's it was looked down upon.
i'd already started smoking in my early teens and didn't actually quit till i was 20. my motive?
You think churches are contributing to obesity? <blink> wow... um.. maybe *this* is why the UN will turn on all false religion, heart disease. :)
Yes, compassion is needed, along with proportionality.
Without proportionality in punishment, you encourage people to commit more serious "sins". After all, if the punishment were the same for robbing a bank and robbing a newspaper box, which would you rather do?
This is of course all built upon the premise that the elders should meet out punishment.
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as an old timer former jw, i remember well the tobacco prohibition.
when i came in during the mid 50's it was looked down upon.
i'd already started smoking in my early teens and didn't actually quit till i was 20. my motive?
Okay then, lets take this a couple of steps further.
Suppose a) A smoker always goes outside to smoke (thereby causing damage only to themselves)
b) An obese person indirectly harms their children by providing high fat snacks and high sugar sodas causing their children to become diabetic.
Which one is the worst sinner? Is it judged by harm to others? Harm to self? Respect for life?
This is the slippery slope of legislating what is a sin and what isn't. What is a disfellowshipping offense and what isn't.
And I'm not even getting into pot smoking which is far less harmful than cigarette smoking. What about pipes and cigars? Is occasional use more harmful than drinking? Than over-eating?
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as an old timer former jw, i remember well the tobacco prohibition.
when i came in during the mid 50's it was looked down upon.
i'd already started smoking in my early teens and didn't actually quit till i was 20. my motive?
BillyBoy, so then do you feel its hypocritical of the JW's not to df obese people?
Yes, I don't really like the idea of giving wild accusations too much power. Its odd actually, I knew another elder who was removed because of an accusation that turned out to be false as well (wtg, hypnotherapy). Is DNA evidence not permitted as a "second witness"? I hadn't heard that. Thats particularly disgusting (through not surprising) if its true. After all, "worldly" evidence is given a lower weight
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of the outlines for said talks.
posting here probably wouldn't be the best thing, but it would be nice if we could get them up at reexamine.org.
for those who never joined, or don't go to the hall regularly, yet have loved ones who do, it would be nice to know what the guy is going to say.. cyp
Nice. (actually, some other interesting details on http://hufffamily.com/index.html)
However, both are incomplete. There are actually 150+ talk outlines, I'm not sure on the exact count.
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