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  JW Divorce Rate

  by sandy in

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  anybody know what the jw divorce rate is these days?.

  how many dub couples do you know that got divorced?.

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  From http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/atheist4.htm

  In the "No Religion" category measuring lifestyles of the 29-million or so members of this cohort, 33% were single, 22% single and co-habiting, 19% married, and 9% divorced. Six percent were widowed. Only Buddhists (47%) and Muslim/Islam believers (37%) exceeded the numbers in the singles category. But the "No Religion" group showed low rates of divorce compared to religious counterparts. Pentecostal Christians had the highest divorce rates at 14%, followed by Episcopalian/Anglicans at 12%, Baptists at 12%, and the Assemblies of God at 10%. Non-believers had comparable divorce rates along with Methodists, Roman Catholics, "Christians," Church of Christ members and others. ARIS noted, "the no religion group was far more likely to be either single, never married or single, living with a partner than any other group." Evangelical Christians and Assemblies of God followers were more likely to marry (73% and 74%), thus possibly contributing to the high divorce rates.

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  There is no such thing as Agnosticism. Agnostics do not exist!

  by nicolaou in

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  many here seem to believe that the position of agnosticism is somehow more reasonable than theism or atheism.

  nonsense!

  it is a misconception to believe that belief or non-belief in the existence of god/s are the two extremes which glare at each other over the fence of agnosticism.

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  LittleToe, amen. Militant beliefs are a huge turn off. Tolerance and mercy are groovy.

  Incidentally, everyone is ignoring Ignosticism. Way more fun than agnosticism.

  Ignosticism is the view that the question of the existence of God is meaningless because it has no verifiable (or testable) consequences and should therefore be ignored. (See scientific method.) The term was coined by Rabbi Sherwin Wine, founder of the Society for Humanistic Judaism. Ignosticism is often considered synonymous with theological noncognitivism.

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  Why is it considered so wrong to be anti-religious or aggressively atheist?

  by nicolaou in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm not talking about the simple belief that there is no god and that religion is a brake on the development of humanity but the aggressive and vocal campaign to convince others of such?.

  what's wrong with that?

  why do believers feel so offended when i try to reason with them on the invalidity of their faith and the abusive nature of religious institutions?

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  LittleToe, I believe I said a burden of proof lies with a claimant. I'm not really sure what you are attempting to correct.

  Atheists will argue that atheism requires the fewest new assumptions about how the world works, and hence, is more reasonable.

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  Why is it considered so wrong to be anti-religious or aggressively atheist?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm not talking about the simple belief that there is no god and that religion is a brake on the development of humanity but the aggressive and vocal campaign to convince others of such?.

  what's wrong with that?

  why do believers feel so offended when i try to reason with them on the invalidity of their faith and the abusive nature of religious institutions?

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  The burden of proof lies with the claimant. Though beliefs can be based on the stars, tea leaves, simply having this sort of proof for a belief does not make the belief desirable or true in any meaningful sense. Homeopathy and astrology fit this well. Believers will point to their mass of "evidence", but these beliefs still have very real negative effects.

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

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  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  Is that a good or bad thing?

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  Intelligent design redux

  by ackack in

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  in a thread about id, it got a little bit off-track discussing id theories.. essentially, i'm sure there are those here you are proponents of id, and perhaps, you could lets us in on what is considered proof for and intelligent designer.

  i think i've heard a few of the lines of evidence id proponents use, but i'm always open to hearing other lines, or even if someone feels they have a genuinely test that could demonstrate (or not) the plausibility of id.. ackack.

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  In a thread about ID, it got a little bit off-track discussing ID theories.

  Essentially, I'm sure there are those here you are proponents of ID, and perhaps, you could lets us in on what is considered proof for and intelligent designer. I think I've heard a few of the lines of evidence ID proponents use, but I'm always open to hearing other lines, or even if someone feels they have a genuinely test that could demonstrate (or not) the plausibility of ID.

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

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  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  Easy. Just start two others threads on the subject! :) I'll start one on ID, you can start one saying hello and lets talk about the existence of God. :)

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

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  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  Hey Ri, hello. We should really shut down this thread and start a new one of ID, and another one about the logic existence (or non-existence) of God. :)

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  Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

  by hooberus in

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  the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

  "an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

  " the biotic message page.

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  "If a Creator exists, then the Creator is real and there is always evidence of real existence."

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

  In others words, all real things have evidence, there is evidence for the creator, therefore the creator is true.

  I hope I'm getting this right.

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  Is manned space exploration a waste of money?

  by free2beme in

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  i was watching a program the other day, and it mentioned some interesting things about exploring space.

  1. nothing has been found on other planets that we need or would benefit from.

  rather the opposite, we have found hostile environments that would kill us.. 2. the cost to get a man to these places is astronomical, and not something that would reap benefit to our planet.. 3. so far, nothing within reasonable traveling distance has shown itself worth an effort that would require man, and would not be done easier with machine.. so with this in mind, other then the travel we see with the space shuttle in our own orbit, that has shown some medical breakthroughs and so on.

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  All of our genetic eggs are in one basket. Manned space flight is the only solution to this problem.