why do kids love wellies so much?.
we went to buy liam some new school shoes and clothes yesterday and both lads wanted to buy some wellies - liam got green tweenie ones and dylan got red thomas the tank engine ones.. they wore them when we got home and didn't take them off till bedtime.
this morning they are both walking round in their pyjamas and ... wellies.
In the US, our funny word for rainboots is GALOSHES! (in UK too?)
ha! I used to love that word when I was a kid.
I had some blue ones with Snoopy on one side and Woodstock on the other side.
he he he
"It was a dark and stormy night....."
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
jehovah's angel now passed by again and stood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn aside to the right or to the left.
when the ass got to see jehovah's angel she now lay down under balaam; so that balaam's anger blazed, and he kept beating the ass with his staff.
finally jehovah opened the mouth of the ass and she said to balaam: "what have i done to you so that you have beaten me these three times?
I must admit teejay, I had a little help from outside sources. There is a book I have skimmed over called 'The Two Religions of Israel'. If you want the info for the book, check this thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18329&site=3
My eyes were opened a little wider by checking this stuff out.
Thanks for the reply,
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
(cause even i like to post witness stuff at times).
* names have been changed to protect the innocent.. "tim!
get to the hall as quick as you can tonight.
Ah yes, Naeblis,
some of the most brilliant material comes from the crapper.
once I gave a subsitute talk without even having read the bible reading first! Not the whole thing at least.
I just knew roughly the topic, said a few words, sat down.
This was in the back school of course.
he he he
cellodumper
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
of course this is extremely personal but i am sharing it with everyone on the board anyhow.. i would like some feedback about my approach in this letter:.
1. how i convey my feelings about leaving 'the truth'; do i scare the reader away?.
2. should i mention armageddon at all?.
Hi all,
Of course this is extremely personal but I am sharing it with everyone on the board anyhow.
I would like some feedback about my approach in this letter:
1. How I convey my feelings about leaving 'the truth'; do I scare the reader away?
2. Should I mention Armageddon at all?
Who is the reader? (that might help, since this is highly subjective)
1. I was engaged to her until about a year ago. I told her that my beliefs were changing and we were forced to call off the wedding.
2. She got a tatoo right after we terminated our relationship, but clings on dearly to 'the truth'.
3. I have seen her only once in the last 10 months.
4. Especially after her grandmother died a couple of months ago, her family has been opposed to her having contact with me.
5. I just want to be her friend and help her out of the borg.
Thanks to all who care to read and Witness-proof for me :)
It has been quite a while since I have attempted to speak with you. You have the right to listen if you wish to anything I may say. Please make this your own pesonal decision.
Well, what have I to say?
First, that I continue to care for you and your happiness matters to me. I will support you as much as a friend can under the circumstances. I can't ignore that you are in pain right now, for various reasons, of which some I am not aware. But I know the pain is there.
I cannot erase any pain you may be experiencing. But I will not let you suffer unnecessarily.
One of the last times we spoke, you told me, "you are my best friend." I don't doubt that you meant it.
So why sever all ties with me?
Every time I have tried to talk with you, I have been primarily motivated by concern for your well being. I don't ask for much in return: courtesy, respect, and honesty. I hope you do not resent me for showing such concern. It is genuine and unconditional.
If I ever need anything from you, I will ask. Otherwise, you need not worry about 'what I might want from you'.
Of course, I am experiencing pain right now as well. I no longer measure my self-worth in terms of my 'spirituality'. But of course people in my life choose to see things this way. They want to measure out their love for me accordingly. Please do not be one of these people.
Love is not something that should be given in 'measured doses'.
I will surround myself with people whose love for me is unconditional. This is essential for my personal health. You are capable of doing this in your life as well.
Mandy, I have discovered that conditional love is inherent in the mentality of Jehovah's Witnesses. You yourself have been a victim of this, in the past when we were dating; you might still be treated this way. People in the congregation are willing to extend themselves to you only so far as it makes them look good. If they deem you 'weak', perhaps they will condescendingly offer their friendship. But this is not love.
I naively thought in the past that I could change people, and make a difference. Well, the time to make a difference as a member of the congregation is no longer. I learned much about love while I was there (from you, which I greatly appreciate, and from many others). I grew in understanding and love, and eventually the word I was living in became much too small.
I think this is the part of my process to which you can relate. There is of coure much more, regarding my beliefs, some of which you fear. Mandy, I see it as inevitable that your path will eventually take you outside of the congregation. You yourself said this to me long ago: "If it weren't for you I probably wouldn't still be here."
There is no shame in this! I just hope you don't fall away because of being hurt.
I will support you, if you wish, in making wise decisions in this regard. Remember that I am no longer as close-minded and judgemental as I was.
Must you hate me for making the decision to leave? What if you had to make the same decision?
I deeply regret that this decision of mine came when it did, but I couldn't pick my time. There never would have been a convenient time to go.
In fact, it was stated from the platform in the kingdom hall that 'whoever doesn't accept Jesus' ransom doens't belong here'. That was directed to me, intentionally, but also intended to frighten the congregation. That was very unfair.
I know it happened so fast; I changed very fast I must admit. But how can I apologize for what I saw? What I learned?
It hurts me so much that you feel the need to push me away. What is not fair is that you think that by 'punishing' me you might be doing me a favor. This is not love. If you want to love me, then love me as I am.
If you can hang on to anything, remain the caring person I know you to be. I know how torn you must be upon thinking of losing me forever, or anyone else you may care about. But you must see that you are choosing that option. You distance yourself from me now because you fear that sometime in the future I will suffer divine judgement. I don't share your fear, but I can only imagine how painful it is to think about.
Don't give up, though, your right to see how my life turns out. I am sorry if I haven't been perfectly tactful, but I know this is a major issue for you. I didn't wish this pain upon you, let me assure you. I wish I could help you resolve it. Ask yourself, "is it healthy for me to think this way?"
I am sure you need emotional distance from me for personal reasons. I respect that. I am not trying to confuse your emotions. I have had much time to heal, but I felt it very necessary to collect my thoughts and and feelings and deliver them to you now. Maybe this will help you too.
From my perspective, I can't think of one good reason I shouldn't be your friend.
Again, it's your choice as to what kind of friend you want to be. I cannot oblige you to do anything. But please be honest about what you are choosing.
Sincerely,
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
jehovah's angel now passed by again and stood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn aside to the right or to the left.
when the ass got to see jehovah's angel she now lay down under balaam; so that balaam's anger blazed, and he kept beating the ass with his staff.
finally jehovah opened the mouth of the ass and she said to balaam: "what have i done to you so that you have beaten me these three times?
Thanks Radar,
Imagine if I told you today that God used my barking dog to alert me that I need to read the bible more.
Why do I assert this?
Perhaps because when I got up to see what the dog was barking at, I trip over the bible that was left lying on the floor.
I need no more proof.
But wouldn't YOU ask for more proof? Especially before telling all your friends about it?
What the hell would make you believe that God was really trying to speak to me?
The bible is just a collection of such "could have been inspired" accounts.
Should we open a can of worms and talk about Sodom and Gomorrah?
All I have to say is "could have been a volcano just as well".
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
which fruit is most in use within this community and why?
how so?
Mango:
Bitter_Mango
Buttered_Mango
Boiled_Mango
Broth_of_Mango
Baby_Mango
Big_Mango
Blind_Mango
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
I like Mondays because you can be lazy....
after all, there are four more days left in the week!
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
jehovah's angel now passed by again and stood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn aside to the right or to the left.
when the ass got to see jehovah's angel she now lay down under balaam; so that balaam's anger blazed, and he kept beating the ass with his staff.
finally jehovah opened the mouth of the ass and she said to balaam: "what have i done to you so that you have beaten me these three times?
Jehovah's angel now passed by again and stood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn aside to the right or to the left. When the ass got to see Jehovah's angel she now lay down under Balaam; so that Balaam's anger blazed, and he kept beating the ass with his staff. Finally Jehovah opened the mouth of the ass and she said to Balaam: "What have I done to you so that you have beaten me these three times?"
~ Numbers 22:27-28
Balaam inferred that God was talking to him through his ass. (Wait, that sentence doesn't sound right, does it?)
It therefore must have been an angel that impeded his progess by making his ass stop. (That didn't sound exactly like I meant it, either. Sorry everyone, have patience.)
So Balaam beat his ass mercilessly.
This is funny!
But a few serious points I got from the story of Balaam (chapters 22-24):
1. Animals were considered by the ancients to be more sensitive to the presence of spirits
2. Other tribes around Israel also worshipped Jehovah as their god
3. The origin of prophecy was in diviners who used 'omens', bad or good. They actually walked to a certain location, studied the landscape, and took note of things that conveyed divine messages. This is how God talked to them. The poetry was all the prophet's own.
Next post: Did Balaam put a curse on Israel to make the men lust after the Midianite women?
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
a simple question for serious jw's:.
according to this sunday's newspaper suppliment a common snail travels at 24 inches/hour (60cm/hr).
i've got snails in my garden and i've just crunched some math on my super scientific pocket calculator.
Ha Ha Unclebrew,
You have hit the nail on the head with your "beeline" expose. No wonder no one is posting.
If I remember correctly, there is only one marsupial mammal that lives outside of Australia (or Oceania, I should perhaps say): the opossum.
Yet there are many, many species of marsupial mammals in Australia.
There is even an extinct marsupial wolf, but I am sure Unclebrewski knows this already.
Why the disparity?
Did the marsupials also make a "beeline" to Australia? If so, what made them all stick together except for the opossum?
New Guinea, surrounded by hundreds of miles of water, also defies the global flood theory. Big flightless birds, huh? Moas, they are called? These went extinct evidently at the hands of humans. How did they get there so fast? hmmmm <scratching my head>
Oh yeah, Madagascar had big flightless birds as well.
Why doesn't the distribution of animals in the fossil record suddenly change where we expect it around 4000 yrs ago? All the animals must have migrated back (over oceans and continents, mind you--- see Unc's "Around the World in 80 days in an Ark Tossing Off the Animals that Don't Belong Near Mt. Ararat theory"--- that might help) to their original dwelling places, leaving no sign they were gone!
I said ALL the animal species!
Did you know that frogs and toads are also in the animal kingdom? How did Noah know what a frog pee-pee looked like so he didn't bring along two females? (oh wait, frogs materialize out of thin air like in the plagues of Egypt; they don't need sexual reproduction) So too fall into the animal kingdom, for further example, insects (beetles alone have thousands of species), reptiles, amphibians, birds, and fish (can you say freshwater?), but I won't go there. (Because they all survived the flood somehow, in most cases without Noah's Ark to protect them.)
So if anyone wants to cling on to a local God-ordained flood scenario, perhaps see aChristian (though you might want to throw a skeptical ear his way too ). The global flood thingy just did not happen.
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
the scriptures show that his second presence was due in 1874...this proof shows that the lord has been present since 1874.... the watchtower, march 1, 1923, p. 67 .
the bigger the lie, the more that will believe it.. adolph hitler.
Does absolute truth mean 'slightly more than truth', or 'right on par with truth'?
Sounds like a comparison to me.
Why not just say truth? Because it's not!
You know when it says 'absolute' your mind is in for a good f@#*ing! That's emotional language----people want absolutes.
Good quote (although i didn't comment on it )
cellomould
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
