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cellomould
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Baltimore/DC
by cellomould inanyone who lives in the area feel free to respond or send e-mail.. i will be in the neighborhood for a research meeting on sept 11.
(interestingly, i began my lab notebook two years ago on september 11. this will be one of my last research gigs before i file my thesis and graduate.
good thing i don't believe in luck, considering the events of last year.
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Baltimore/DC
by cellomould inanyone who lives in the area feel free to respond or send e-mail.. i will be in the neighborhood for a research meeting on sept 11.
(interestingly, i began my lab notebook two years ago on september 11. this will be one of my last research gigs before i file my thesis and graduate.
good thing i don't believe in luck, considering the events of last year.
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cellomould
Anyone who lives in the area feel free to respond or send e-mail.
I will be in the neighborhood for a research meeting on Sept 11. (Interestingly, I began my lab notebook two years ago on September 11. This will be one of my last research gigs before I file my thesis and graduate. Good thing I don't believe in luck, considering the events of last year.) Since it is at a military base, I figure I might as well link up with some apostates while I am there. You know, mix the bad with the bad.
I will probably be in town from Sept 10-12 or 13.
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Hey again Pomegranate,
I recorded some stuff on my computer once or twice or thrice...long ago, on a Mac IIse, with demo software that could not save your work. So I mixed cello and bass tracks for Led Zep's Kashmir and then recorded the final onto a tape recorder. It was quite noisy, obviously. It still sounded really cool at the time, considering the low-tech approach. I lost the tape somewhere.
I will have to bring my skills to the modern recording realm sometime soon.
I liked your recording a lot, by the way. Thanks for sharing,
cellmould
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The Book of Babble
by cellomould inin genesis chapter 10, we read the following:.
these are the sons of ham, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, by their nations.
21 also to shem, the father of all the children of eber, and the older brother of japheth, children were born.
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Pomegranate,
That would be reasonable, if humans could have developed technology at an explosively rapid rate. In Genesis we also have the account of Cain and Abel, who domesticated agriculture and livestock, respectively. If Cain and Abel could do it, so could the sons of Noah.
To build a large tower would require a huge investment of time and resources (human power and animal power included, no doubt). Food production would have to be very stable in order to free up large amounts of time for workers and artisans.
But remember, you are claiming this could be done in 3 generations. Wait...sorry, 2 generations, you say.
Evidence shows, to the contrary, that plant and animal domestication took thousands of years. For example, the domestication of dogs began around 100,000 years ago. Ancestors of cattle, sheep, pigs, etc, also were domesticated many thousands of years ago; this involved drastic changes in the animals' behavior, diet, and physical characteristics.
Imagine that your family is the only surviving family in some global catastrophe. There are no more supermarkets or farms, much less computers and drive-in cleaners. Why would you suppose any of your previous lifestyle could be accomodated into the new? Everything you know about our society would die with you. Let's say you are an expert physicist. You won't have time to teach physics to any of your children because you will be too busy struggling to feed them. Whatever stories you tell them will be just stories.
Are you familiar with many wild grass seeds in your area? Which of them are edible, if any?
What if this catastrophe was like the biblical flood? What plants would have survived after being submerged under over a mile of water for over a year? What would you eat then? (After all, God said to bring animals only. He only implied that you would bring vegetation to feed them and think about saving the seeds rather than throwing them overboard.)
And even if you remembered the names of several major rivers in your state, how many of them would you have time to visit with your children? Especially if they are many miles apart? What if this catastrophe changed the courses of all the rivers and/or replaced them?
Do you suppose your grandchildren will be building cities or trying to figure out how to fashion a needle and thread for simple clothing? Which animal bones would make good needles? And how many animals do you have to spare anyhow, considering that they have nothing to eat and you only had 2 of each kind in the first generation?
Oh, I suppose that solution lies in that most of the animals will die. You will have lots of bones... If you can find them, that is. You don't suppose that you thought about building an enclosure for each type of animal so that they don't wander too far off?
If you had thought of that, you would take advantage of all the felled trees in your vicinity. You would cut the pieces to size with a saw...no, you can't find one...better yet, a sword!
Simply find the angel guarding the garden of Eden and ask him if you can borrow a sword to cut the tree trunks or branches into smaller pieces to build enclosures for the animals that you left...hundreds of miles away where your ark landed...oops...
Or was the garden destroyed in this flood??? So you'd be better off keeping the animals in the ark for at least a couple of generations to develop a good stock. Reschedule for later the visit with the children to the original site of the Garden of Eden, although the garden will not be there, and neither will the Tigris, Euphrates, or the angel with the flaming sword. Hopefully you can remember where it is located, since you have never been there; you only heard about it from your grandfather.
But don't wait too long for that visit, since your kids will need to see the sword to know how such a weapon is used...wait, we said the sword was no longer there because the Garden is gone! Forgot!
Okay, the kids (or grandkids, or great-grandkids, etc etc, since you will be hanging out near the ark for quite a while, unlikely to discover a mine nearby) will have to learn on their own how to extract metals from ore and make weapons to kill each other. God could not possibly want to teach them that anyhow.
So does God intervene and help you out? You are naked and starving without him, it seems. If he does help you (and it would take quite a supernatural assistance to keep many animals near you as well as spread them all over the world, australia and new guinea included, because they sure as hell couldn't walk there) why does he bail on you so soon?
As clever as you and I are, could we make up a more fascinating tale of good, evil, and old-fashioned survival skills?
Hehehe hehe hehehehe this has been fun
cellmould
History followed different courses for different peoples because of differences among peoples' environments, not because of biological differences among peoples themselves.
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The Book of Babble
by cellomould inin genesis chapter 10, we read the following:.
these are the sons of ham, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, by their nations.
21 also to shem, the father of all the children of eber, and the older brother of japheth, children were born.
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That's a good reference for several different bible translations, by the way.
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Microphone "Handling"
by SYN inwhat is all the fuss about?
when i was still assimilated (i.e.
still in the borg, but wanting out every second of that time), there was so much emphasis put on microphone handling that it was almost unreal.
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cellomould
I used to have 'privileges' galore...sometimes in one evening I would be the magazine attendant and the sound attendant (which often meant doing the roving mics as well as adjusting the sound and remembering to play the right songs), and give an impromptu talk on top of that.
When I first came to that hall, by the way, there were only 2 ministerial serpents. One was in his forties, the other in his 70's. But by the time I became an MS, we had quite a few more. Still, the 'privilieges' were often split between two or three of us.
Don't think for a second that I ever forgot my suit coat. How else would the elders know I was 'spiritual'? (not like they can 'read hearts' or make any kind of character judgements).
cellmould
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The Book of Babble
by cellomould inin genesis chapter 10, we read the following:.
these are the sons of ham, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, by their nations.
21 also to shem, the father of all the children of eber, and the older brother of japheth, children were born.
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cellomould
In Genesis chapter 10, we read the following:
These are the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, by their nations. 21 Also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, and the older brother of Japheth, children were born.
22 (24) The sons of Shem were (25) Elam and Asshur and (26) Arpachshad and (27) Lud and Aram.
23 The sons of Aram were (28) Uz and Hul and Gether and Mash.
24 Arpachshad became the father of (29) Shelah; and Shelah became the father of Eber.
25 (30) Two sons were born to Eber; the name of the one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
26 Joktan became the father of Almodad and Sheleph and Hazarmaveth and Jerah
27 and Hadoram and Uzal and Diklah
28 and Obal and Abimael and Sheba
29 and Ophir and Havilah and Jobab; all these were the sons of Joktan.
30 Now their settlement extended from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the hill country of the east.
31 These are the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, according to their nations. 32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, according to their genealogies, by their nations; and (31) out of these the nations were separated on the earth after the flood.Now Genesis chapter 11 will introduce the Tower of Babel:
1 Now the whole earth used the same language and the same words.
2 It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land (1) of Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used brick for stone, and they used (2) tar for mortar.
4 They said, "Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top (3) will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves (4) a name, otherwise we (5) will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth."
5 (6) The LORD came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built.This is something that eludes even diligent 'bible students' who claim to read the bible from cover to cover. No amount of explanation can render these two passages into harmony.
Did the descendents of Noah have one language, or several?
If the languages were really confused by God, then the account of chapter 10 is quite anomalous. How could the language groups be traced back to Noah's descendents? (This is a question for those who presume that chapter 10 meant to speak of the languages present after the Tower of Babel)
The bible itself thus can be used to disprove at least two things:
(1) That one person (Moses) wrote the entire book of Genesis. These are clearly two independent passages, perhaps written hundreds of years apart and compiled later.
(2) That God's intervention as recorded in the bible is anything more than metaphorical.
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Why do the Governing body remain unknown?
by sleepy inwhy do the governing body remain unknown to witnesses in general?.
i used to think that the fact that the gb promote themselves (personnaly by name) in the magazines and don't name writers of watchtower articles, was a sign that the governing body was humble and meek.. but why did they take this policy?russel and rutherford were certainly not unkown.when did the transition happen?.
my theory is that this annomimity is use to make the magazines look like they are not aurthored by men.if an article appeared with the writers name , witnesses may choose to reject what is writen as they can see it was writen by a man.but not nameing the writers makes it hard for witnesses to identify the writers as just human like them, and gives the impression the magazines and books have a divine source.. any other ideas?
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cellomould
Interesting point.
I know I was shocked when the GB's pictures came out in the 'Proclaimers' book...
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Sounds cool YK,
I just got a free electric guitar. My friend ordered a guitar and a case, which were shipped separately. Well, guess what?! The second box was really heavy and it should have been only the case... well, there was a guitar in each box.
Since he will be going back to France within the year, he let me keep the extra guitar. Of course, he kept the case.
I prefer playing classical music on guitar, but heavy metal is great too.
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Guess what instrument I play?
Click the link for a picture of cello wearing only a scarf!
http://groups.msn.com/exJWsRaw/membersregularphotos.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=65
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