how crazy is that?!
I'll have to make sure to visit when ever I find myself in Romania...
cellmould
the high and mighty william h. bowen and friends.
most people in the world who would know of bill bowens (and friends) efforts on behalf of the adult survivors of childhood abuse (asca) would applaud his efforts and maybe even help to a greater or lesser degree.
many a political representative and elected legislator have certainly voiced their agreement with the sentiments expressed by mr. bowen and his supportersas evidenced by recent passage of tougher child abuse reporting laws in some states, with plenty more in the works.
how crazy is that?!
I'll have to make sure to visit when ever I find myself in Romania...
cellmould
"as to the old testament name of god, certainly the spelling and pronunciation "jehovah" were originally a blunder.
(the bible in living english, 1972, p.7, watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania) .
what's the deal?
The usage of vowels in Hebrew was simply different. They used symbols above the characters more often than separate characters. Not that I care much.
cellmould
for the second night in a row, david letterman included a jab at the witnesses in reference to their sex abuse scandal.. tonight in his monologue, he said (something like): "those jehovah's witnesses, they're something else.
first they grope you, then they leave you a pamphlet!
" then he mimicked a jw saying "here" while handing you a piece of literature.
hope that airs again... Dave is a funny guy, eh?
cellmould
the bubble factor in being a witness
about two days ago after i had the pleasure of listening to my housemate verbally pound a couple of unlucky witnesses who knocked on our door.
i was sitting in my easy chair this evening eating a piece of apple pie and was struck by this overwhelming revelation, almost an epiphany.
Hey Skipper,
It's good to hear your thoughts again.
As you seem to have said, the average JW is just a magnified average unconcious person. It is so odd to converse with people who cannot or do not choose to think outside of the box. (or the bubble )
So here's a new concept I have thought up: ExJWs covertly expose confused people to JW teachings. Why? They can be easily de-programmed, especially if you give them some disclaimer at the beginning. You invite them to the kingdom hall, showing them how comfy it is to participate in group-think.
Then you pull the plug:
'Welcome back to sanity! Do not ever give up your right to think for yourself again.'
Okay so I am rambling. But I love it!
cellmould
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20020806/ap_on_he_me/conjoined_twins_17
surgeons separate conjoined twins
tue aug 6, 9:37 am et .
There was an earlier case of conjoined twins when I worked at that hospital (in my undergrad years). I never got to see the twins, but I got to peer into the medical records. (Not a breach of confidentiality because I had reason for so doing). Very interesting.
Actually, if I remember correctly, only one survived. Both had required major heart surgery.
The UCLA hospital is quite a happening place. It has been ranked the best hospital in the West for many years in a row. A replacement hosptial is being built that will withstand earthquakes of up to 8 or so magnitude. It was designed by the famous architect I.M. Pei.
cellmould
ok everyone i'm pretty new here and here's my two cents... one thing i could not figure out was...what was the craze with bethelites ?
as a reg pioneer supposedly i was a lock for local sis..but from my point of view sisters practically fell over themselves trying to get a piece of these guys.. myself i was never one to let anyone go unoticed.. i was equal opprotunity..especially for the spanish sis's in the spanish cong..speaking of which have any of you guys ever been to one of the spanish conventions ?
i had to pick my tongue off the ground several times..hehehe.
I had a conversation not long ago with a friend who is a JW elder. He told me about 2 gals about my age (they are cousins) in that k.h. who are getting married. Both are marrying 'Bethelites'. They are, by the way, recently baptized as JWs. One of them just finished her B.A. degree in communications, having begun college before being recruited.
Why does the JW organization let women believe they can be 'worth something' if they marry for rank and prestige?
He must have thought hearing the news made me happy. But no, it made me quite sad and angry. Those were my friends. To see their values replaced with an enduring desire to 'please Jehovah' (whose celestial throne is in Brooklyn, didn't you know) is painful.
cellmould
when i was in the sixth grade in roswell n.m. i met this girl whos father had recently died.my father had also passed away recently.we were both very shy and haveing the lose of our fathers in common we stuck together that year.we never did anything outside of school however, not sure why,she never invited me over and now i think it was because of her horrible home life.but we ate lunch together everyday and chated in a class we shared.i never saw her again until..... when i was in my 20's my cousins wife told me that my friend demetria guynes was....... drum roll..plz.
demi moore.
please share simular stories.
I have also met Axl Rose, wonderwoman. He has a cool house in Malibu, although perhaps he has moved. I worked with a JW friend a few years back who had his own cleaning business. We were trying to polish his tiles in the patio.
I have also had the fortune to meet the former Prime Minister of Canada, Kim Campbell, who is currently Chair of the Council of Women World Leaders. She was the consul general to L.A. for a few years and my friend was her assistant.
I once got to try on a Super Bowl ring, when I met a former Oakland Raider (early 70s). I feel bad because I cannot remember his name. The ring is a pinky ring, but it was much bigger than ANY of my fingers!
A few of the other celebs I have seen up close or from afar: Cameron Diaz, the late Walter Matthau, Puff Daddy, Mel Gibson, Mary Lou Retton, Kerri Strug, Jaleel White (Urkel), LL Cool J, Donald Sutherland, and David Spade.
Check out the band Hepcat...a friend I grew up with in my young JW days was in the band before they retired:
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?oid=3354
cellmould
nope, the above isn't a cryptic reference to my experience wallowing in the low spark of domineering elders, self-righteous piblishers, and heavy handed overseers.
it is however an accurate statement regarding my 7-month stay at an internet company here in arizona that sold ink cartridges over the web.
it was my first full-time job after i graduated from college with my bachelor's degree last year, and in my mind it was one of the most poorly run companies in the world.
Wow,
I was feeling ready today to leave my professor's research group for much less!
Preston, there are numerous lesser forms of torture than what you endured. What comes to mind is being beaten and left for dead in the middle of a Sudan summer with no food, no water... all alone except for the company of parasitic flies.
Whether or not I leave, it is important that I confront the issues with which I am faced. I am not happy with what is expected of me. I have put up with my professor's venting several times; in each case he got upset, it was really that he misunderstood me or was entirely presumptuous. Today in a group meeting, I was presenting my latest results, along with my reasoning, which was based on at least two previous conversations. But he got mad because he thought I was changing something, likely having forgotten what I had earlier proposed.
I am, quite frankly, annoyed today.
He is a decent man, but I am certain that I need more from my professional relationships. Sounds odd, but that's what it is. That is an important area in which we need a healthy relationship.
I believe, by the way, that all relationships should be peer-to-peer, regardless of one person's feeble attempts to pull rank.
cellmould
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yikes!edited by - butalbee on 15 august 2002 11:53:52.
Sweet Jesus!
I have succumbed a few times to prayer since I have become a devout atheist. In my weakness, I know that the universal ubiquitous un-deity, who neither hears nor answers prayer, has forgiven me.
When I was a devout JW, Jehovah never forgave me for all that masturbation I succumbed to.
Isn't it nice to finally be forgiven? <sighs>
p.s.: don't you just hate the word 'succumb'? Notice how different the dictionary definition is from the JW connotation:
To submit to an overpowering force or yield to an overwhelming desire; give up or give in.
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=succumb
cellmould