The Witnesses had free reign to tell the readers of this newspaper the Watchtower and Leaders "they not telling those kids their going to die if their not listening to the direction". it's Theocratic Warfare" at it's best as they lie to readers who don't know JWs are good telling half-truths.
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Jehovah's Witnesses video slammed for threatening kids with death for not paying attention in church
by dropoffyourkeylee inhere is the link to a recent news article.
maybe it was commented before, but today was the first i had seen it.. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
i guess caleb is getting around.
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The Secret is out....but nobody cares
by MrTheocratic ini've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.
i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.
i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.
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"life is short" after dedicating yourself to a group with no natural affection for each other and pathological liars, users and often the rubbish of the world being placed on their high chair,how are you feeling now? What's been said by him is nothing new, the kids don't know the Bible, elders don't trust the eschatology and End Time doctrines had many shaking their heads.
Elders use their positions to bully and pretend their something because in real life, these wanna-bees would not have a very high social standing. I've seen sisters like you living in a bad way, self-denial of your own dreams while shitty husbands would dump all your loyal service for a Cult that has the "disposable" attitude towards witnesses who can't deliver today. The Cult is all about "What have you dome for me Today, not "thank's for all your hard work over the past, thank you for living off nothing to ensure the message was delivered". they don't care and I am sorry your husband has not see the deep value your worth!
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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Since when has this religion kept it's mouth shut when people try to exit quietly? They don't respect your personal rights and freedoms, as I wrote about a elder I saw who was spewing lies about me, I learned they are not good people to Bible students or non religious people who can't stomach their dangerous doctrines keeping their followers poor and educationally challenged.
For a religion who attacks everyone with names and lots of hatred, why should they be left in peace if their active making people's lives filled with turmoil and trouble? I can't respect a religion that teaches hatred and has no control over many of their leaders, elders and rank-and-filed hateful members. Life is magically better without the rubber-necking and gossip JWs are notorious for. JWs don't practice what they preach, they want you to examine your religion while looking you straight in the face telling you "I have studied all religions and this religion I studied deeply is the Truth". They did not study the historical events that lead up to all their theology, all the history is hidden!
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PLEASE WATCH The Beginning EPISODE 1 OF "DANISH SHOW" DICTE YOUR GOING TO FREAK OUT, OMG!
by PokerPlayerPhil inmy new girl friend asked me "oh my gosh is that a kingdom hall"?
this is a danish series crime show, wait till you see what's in it, this thread is "jehovah's witnesses practices", oh gosh!.
http://watchseriestv.to/serie/dicte.
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The point was she is approaching her parents at some little gathering place and my girlfriend pointed out "hey does that look like a Kingdom Hall? I bet her parents are going to shun her and avoid talking to her when she yell's Mamma, Daddy, they have a look of horror on their faces and run in the Kingdom Hall.
The entire Season 1 shows her parents shunning her because of some past transgression, did not want to waste your time, only point out the Danish make the Jehovah's Witnesses out as very creepy and this was a hit show in Denmark, their getting exposed by everyone!
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PLEASE WATCH The Beginning EPISODE 1 OF "DANISH SHOW" DICTE YOUR GOING TO FREAK OUT, OMG!
by PokerPlayerPhil inmy new girl friend asked me "oh my gosh is that a kingdom hall"?
this is a danish series crime show, wait till you see what's in it, this thread is "jehovah's witnesses practices", oh gosh!.
http://watchseriestv.to/serie/dicte.
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My new girl friend asked me "Oh my gosh is that a Kingdom Hall"? This is a Danish Series Crime Show, wait till you see what's in it, this thread is "Jehovah's Witnesses practices", oh gosh!
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Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?
by PokerPlayerPhil ini am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .
good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).
my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.
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Why can't I have people like you living near me, I wish there were more exjws who are social. Flipper, can we do lunch if I drive up to los angele or orange county? -
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The WT Society is Extreme for a reason.
by Giordano inmost of the following is fairly well known but with so many new ones on this site as well as non jws with questions about the culture and beliefs the following information may be useful.. the current gb's paranoia with 'apostates' or apostate-like behavior (like thinking independently) has it's roots in the early history of the wt society.
the truth of the matter is that the watchtower society has had a checkered history in retaining members and between 1909 to 1931 a number of groups broke away.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/history_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses.
a simplified chart of historical developments of major groups within bible students.. .
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"blondie9 hours ago
The WTS would like jws to think that it has always been one big happy group at the WTS. 1909 was the start of a big leaving of the WTS. When CTR wife was campaigning for him then and later against him.
There were various groups that broke off...Bible Students.
People leave and other fools join in.
The only history that is kosher is the one with the WTS spin...all others are liars. Has anyone ever done an honest scholarly writing about the WTS?"
Nice quick history lesson on the Watchtower, thank you!
Even as a kid I never felt welcome or close with the witness Congregation because everyone was so busy living their lives and I respect that. I respect people have family obligations and need to pay their bills, live their lives but don't tell the World "We have found the love Jesus said would be the identifying mark during the End-Times" because most of us can vouch how superficial all their love is. i was reading a book on Cults and one of the keys they mention is "New members are often love-bombed" honestly that never happened in the Congregations I attended as I saw new or visiting witnesses get completly ignored or shunned. The Watchtower is a social club for the selfish and stingy members of Society who don't want to part with their money. The Watchtower allows it's members to feel good for doing absolutely nothing worth talking about.
How can the Watchtower think their doing something good as they pass by all the homeless and hungry members of the World while their guzzling their Starbucks with a snickering comment about "Oh, if he was a witness that homeless man would have a job and a home because Jehovah take's care of everyone. Instead he's probably a drunk or drug addict, "oh Lord I thank you I am not like him!" as they drag their literature cart past all who need help and park that cart way out of reach, far out where nobody has access to their Phantom Missionary Work
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My 10 year old son almost Outed me as when someone showed him a Watchtower! "The Generation that won't die"
by PokerPlayerPhil ini had a photo copy of the magazine "the generation that will never die!
" sitting in my office, he saw it and being the voracious reader he is, he asked me "why did the magazine say all those people would never die?
" i told him "humans make mistakes, they were wrong by claiming that.
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kaik, can you believe it's been thirty years since the Watchtower so arrogantly printed "The Generation that will not pass away!" magazine? Now I noticed they are removing pieces from their old CDs to stop kids from finding choice concepts like "The Preaching work will end in the 20th Century", does anyone know if the Watchtower has eliminated more words off their CDs and hand outs to the congregation?
What's next for the Organization for "Blunders' and "Bloopers" would you say? Their constantly screwing up even with outlines with private gatherings and there getting leaked because the Bethelites have a great sense of justice who are giving out that information to honest witnesses.
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Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?
by PokerPlayerPhil ini am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .
good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).
my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.
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Thank you everyone, it's hard and I don't mean to be ungrateful having learned my entire life to date was a total lie. It confounds me how people with such deep hatred and wickedness are going around door-to-door preaching a message of hope when their lives are totally hopeless. Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the value of truth I learned from websites like this one and don't want to stew about all the wrongs. It's not only those who are trying to rapidly fade, I talk to many younger Witnesses who are deeply conflicted and troubled at how wicked a large portion of the Elder Bodies are. The saying "Crap Rolls Down Hill" tells us that our Circuit Servants are getting pressure to perform and motivate the Elders but they don't have the know how. The Circuit Overseers are completely out of touch with the Average Kingdom Hall Publisher, they, the Circuit Overseers know their going to get their asses kissed and wined-and-dined and maybe a few "green handshakes" but they will not make any meaningful change because the hearts from many of the people he's preaching to are completely dead, stone cold or hard as a rock.
I don't envy a Circuit Overseer of the Watchtower Society because their so far behind every other religion and barley coming out with Internet TV when Christendom has had this since Al Gore invented the Net. If you really think about what the JW religion is offering the World (Is this a decent illustration?), JW Religion is kinda, actually trying to push everyone back to the Economic Stone Age (by rebuking college, good paying jobs that require you to work more than forty or travel abroad for janitorial jobs, competing with Illegal Immigrants) these COs know this.
With their Real Estate buying, their as good as the best Real Estate Moguls because they get inside or highly discounted prices from their Cult Members. In other facets of their enterprise, how can the COs compete with Ministers who studied "Divinity" from Six to Eight Years getting trained in modern methods of theology and helping the flock? Watchtower is like some company who bought all the old Pay Phones from the Big Bells and now has sent the COs to tell all the JWs to go before their towns folks and say "We got this great business venture, people will pay $.25 to use this phone. JWs are always behind the paradigm, next they will be pushing spiritual-dial up while everyone moves to the WIFI and leaves Cell Phone Carriers behind.
nds a Four, Six or Eight-Year degree plan. The Circuit Overseers will be replaced by something else, eventually the Watchtower is going to find a way to shift the entire expense and liability to the Circuit Overseers so they are autonomous while keeping all the cash and assets on their side. I think the Meno Park Congregations proved that's what's been in store of the COs for a long time.
What value does the Circuit Overseer bring if all the kids in their late-twenties and early=thirties are starting to realize "The End" and "The Friends" do not give a dam about you! Recently we had a talk by the CO about "The Friends" he said "If your holding grudges and being a hater, you will not be in the New System, you might as well not bother pretending because Jehovah does not want nasty people in his Paradise Earth! (I was shocked to hear our CO be so blunt!)". This message by our Circuit Overseer fell upon deaf ears because everyone being screwed with by the Evil Elders said "Well if their not going to be in Paradise, why are they here?".
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Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?
by PokerPlayerPhil ini am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .
good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).
my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.
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Doc I wish they would change who they are but the Organization is in so deep, our desire for their changing is beyond possible. I wish you were near to my area, would love to have lunch with you. You words have been the sound of reason since I've been here, people need to keep their privacy, maybe we could play internet poker once using aliases so nobody can trace us. Thank you for helping me, what caused all our brothers in Eastern Europe to leave the Organization in Romania, was it evil men and women who did not obey justice? May life treat you great!
Could I get df'ed for putting a "Pray for Candace Contii" sign in my yard while the justice system is working on her case? I watched the ABC News story on Kendrick, boy did that give them a kick in the balls! Happy to see all this exposure to the Organization from the United States, they use to claim when news was good "It's blessings from Jehovah" and now their on the run saying "Satan is using the Media as his tool to lie about the problems in our congregations!" There are plenty of JW Pedophiles in California, far too many and were not allowed to tell each brother or sister who they are or we will get charged with gossip!
