http://www.toledoblade.com/religion/2015/04/05/arsonist-asks-local-muslims-for-forgiveness.html.
the fire was set in the prayer room.
damage from smoke and water used to extinguish the september, 2012, blaze caused the islamic center of greater toledo to stay closed until spring of 2013.
It reads like he was former military and not a JW, the same impression you got. If he became a witness in prison that might explain his apology letter because the elders would ask him to do such a thing to get a reduced sentence?
No mention of Jehovah Witness ties, only he wanted revenge for his fallen soldiers by terrorists.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/randy-linn-burn-mosque-revenge_n_2337514.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
We looked forward in a twisted way to the persecution the Watchtower society said was coming our way because of our pure stance on truth. There are better ways that actually are working at "Reverse Witnessing" but this sadly misses the mark. I wrote my thread of all the pain and suffering the Watchtower Society and it's unfaithful clergy class caused with me and helped expedite my divorce and loss of family. Your only giving the Watchtower what they desire, this ain't persecution, it's giving them something to complain about and soon your going to cause a Media firestorm for harassing the poor JWs!
The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions (real or not), there are better ways to expose this crazy group of Doomsday Preachers.
"I think the reality is that a lot of these kinds of actions are more about satisfying the needs of the people doing them than really being about helping or convincing others.
Actually, I don't think it really even makes the people doing it feel better. I think it satisfies some need for revenge but I doubt people really feel contented because of what they do.
But people have the right to make their own choices and decide to act how they want as long as they don't presume to represent everyone else or expect applause / complain about criticism."
Simon
It is about Revenge because I've dreamed about doing things but the rational part of me said "Your not going to feel any better and all it's going to do is make the JWs "Circle their wagons and trolley carts" as they scream "Persecution against the truth faith!"
i am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the elders and overseer said "wait on jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!
" and i explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other witness families with instruction we are to use when the end comes.
why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?.
I am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the Elders and Overseer said "Wait on Jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!" and I explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other Witness families with instruction we are to use when the End comes. Why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the Organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?
How many members here were treated in unspeakable ways by bad men and women while the entire Congregational Members sat on their arses(not willing to lift a finger to stop our suffering)doing nothing to stand up or make your life better? The Kingdom Halls are not brave, often their very cowardly and don't challenge bad decisions made by wicked men. How long did it take for you to leave the Organization after repeated assaults against your character and family, reading posts by fellow members is it any wonder we stayed under their umbrella of hatred to avoid getting pissed on by the Witnesses only to be told, "that's Satan's rain, stay under this snug umbrella to avoid getting wet because, 'where will you go if you leave?' all of us were conditioned to obey the insane rules set before us.
I left because of the slander and lies being spread by Jehovah's true followers of hatred, they are in now way a loving group of people, maybe one or two congregations are(I have never seen them, have you?) obeying Jesus word's while the vast majority practice willful hate!
here is the link to a recent news article.
maybe it was commented before, but today was the first i had seen it.. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
i guess caleb is getting around.
i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.
i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.
i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.
"life is short" after dedicating yourself to a group with no natural affection for each other and pathological liars, users and often the rubbish of the world being placed on their high chair,how are you feeling now? What's been said by him is nothing new, the kids don't know the Bible, elders don't trust the eschatology and End Time doctrines had many shaking their heads.
Elders use their positions to bully and pretend their something because in real life, these wanna-bees would not have a very high social standing. I've seen sisters like you living in a bad way, self-denial of your own dreams while shitty husbands would dump all your loyal service for a Cult that has the "disposable" attitude towards witnesses who can't deliver today. The Cult is all about "What have you dome for me Today, not "thank's for all your hard work over the past, thank you for living off nothing to ensure the message was delivered". they don't care and I am sorry your husband has not see the deep value your worth!
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
Since when has this religion kept it's mouth shut when people try to exit quietly? They don't respect your personal rights and freedoms, as I wrote about a elder I saw who was spewing lies about me, I learned they are not good people to Bible students or non religious people who can't stomach their dangerous doctrines keeping their followers poor and educationally challenged.
For a religion who attacks everyone with names and lots of hatred, why should they be left in peace if their active making people's lives filled with turmoil and trouble? I can't respect a religion that teaches hatred and has no control over many of their leaders, elders and rank-and-filed hateful members. Life is magically better without the rubber-necking and gossip JWs are notorious for. JWs don't practice what they preach, they want you to examine your religion while looking you straight in the face telling you "I have studied all religions and this religion I studied deeply is the Truth". They did not study the historical events that lead up to all their theology, all the history is hidden!
my new girl friend asked me "oh my gosh is that a kingdom hall"?
this is a danish series crime show, wait till you see what's in it, this thread is "jehovah's witnesses practices", oh gosh!.
http://watchseriestv.to/serie/dicte.
The point was she is approaching her parents at some little gathering place and my girlfriend pointed out "hey does that look like a Kingdom Hall? I bet her parents are going to shun her and avoid talking to her when she yell's Mamma, Daddy, they have a look of horror on their faces and run in the Kingdom Hall.
The entire Season 1 shows her parents shunning her because of some past transgression, did not want to waste your time, only point out the Danish make the Jehovah's Witnesses out as very creepy and this was a hit show in Denmark, their getting exposed by everyone!
my new girl friend asked me "oh my gosh is that a kingdom hall"?
this is a danish series crime show, wait till you see what's in it, this thread is "jehovah's witnesses practices", oh gosh!.
http://watchseriestv.to/serie/dicte.
My new girl friend asked me "Oh my gosh is that a Kingdom Hall"? This is a Danish Series Crime Show, wait till you see what's in it, this thread is "Jehovah's Witnesses practices", oh gosh!
i am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .
good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).
my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.
most of the following is fairly well known but with so many new ones on this site as well as non jws with questions about the culture and beliefs the following information may be useful.. the current gb's paranoia with 'apostates' or apostate-like behavior (like thinking independently) has it's roots in the early history of the wt society.
the truth of the matter is that the watchtower society has had a checkered history in retaining members and between 1909 to 1931 a number of groups broke away.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/history_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses.
a simplified chart of historical developments of major groups within bible students.. .
The WTS would like jws to think that it has always been one big happy group at the WTS. 1909 was the start of a big leaving of the WTS. When CTR wife was campaigning for him then and later against him.
There were various groups that broke off...Bible Students.
People leave and other fools join in.
The only history that is kosher is the one with the WTS spin...all others are liars. Has anyone ever done an honest scholarly writing about the WTS?"
Nice quick history lesson on the Watchtower, thank you!
Even as a kid I never felt welcome or close with the witness Congregation because everyone was so busy living their lives and I respect that. I respect people have family obligations and need to pay their bills, live their lives but don't tell the World "We have found the love Jesus said would be the identifying mark during the End-Times" because most of us can vouch how superficial all their love is. i was reading a book on Cults and one of the keys they mention is "New members are often love-bombed" honestly that never happened in the Congregations I attended as I saw new or visiting witnesses get completly ignored or shunned. The Watchtower is a social club for the selfish and stingy members of Society who don't want to part with their money. The Watchtower allows it's members to feel good for doing absolutely nothing worth talking about.
How can the Watchtower think their doing something good as they pass by all the homeless and hungry members of the World while their guzzling their Starbucks with a snickering comment about "Oh, if he was a witness that homeless man would have a job and a home because Jehovah take's care of everyone. Instead he's probably a drunk or drug addict, "oh Lord I thank you I am not like him!" as they drag their literature cart past all who need help and park that cart way out of reach, far out where nobody has access to their Phantom Missionary Work
