Posts by PokerPlayerPhil

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Anyone Know what happened to the Video that's brought down many JWs to Ex-JW land?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i've been looking for a video done by someone who shows the warning by jesus saying "if anyone comes to you and say's "the appointed time is near" you are to run from them!

two people who left the watchtower said this has been one of the most powerful videos to get inside the heads of really smart elders and witnesses that don't come the regular way.. the gist of the video is the watchtower wrote a book called "the appointed time is near" and this goes against everything jesus christ warned people.

the problem with the watchtower's followers is they need "omens", "portents", "signs" to keep their followers following along their path lead by that dried up old carrot (the end) or (the appointed time).

PokerPlayerPhil

I've been looking for a video done by someone who shows the warning by Jesus saying "If anyone comes to you and say's "The Appointed Time is Near" you are to run from them! Two people who left the Watchtower said this has been one of the most powerful videos to get inside the heads of really smart elders and witnesses that don't come the regular way.

The gist of the video is the Watchtower wrote a book called "The Appointed Time Is Near" and this goes against everything Jesus Christ warned people. The problem with the Watchtower's followers is they need "omens", "portents", "signs" to keep their followers following along their path lead by that dried up old carrot (The End) or (The Appointed Time). Can you help me find this video someone named Metroact showed me about six months ago. He said he was at Greg Stafford's website but never returned any of my messages because I think he does not like talking negative about the Organization once he moved past it.

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How Come the Watchtower does not admit "We Don't Know Anything About Bible Prophecy" and come clean?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

so many of us have been caught up in the negative effects this religion placed over our lives and those who we love very much.

i am the first one to tell my kids "i don't know s&^^ about this or that subject", if the watchtower is truly our brother or spiritual mother why don't they tell us the following questions we all have asked them?.

1. we screwed up about 1914 and "life is short, go live your life to the fullest while maintaining justice and morality, don't hurt your fellow man by making his life screwed up!.

PokerPlayerPhil

Deep Insights you provided for all of us to ponder, so basically their like the Indian CEO running Satyam's (famous software fraud in India) who said when asked why he kept lying about all the financial reports, here's what his answer was. Do you think the Watchtower leaders feel the same way and use all the membership as some annuitiy for their retirement?

Simon, you have not comment on this, can you provide your insights because we really do enjoy how you speak your mind and say things many of us cant! I know we have many good posts here, is it possible we all are missing a bigger picture why they won't come clean? Is it like Satyam's CEO who was a fraud and would spend the next decade in prison?

Jan 07, 2009

Satyam: It was like riding a tiger, not knowing how to get off without being eaten

A great quote to cap a sad story for Satyam's Ramalinga Raju, who resigned as Chairman today.

Following the recent issues regarding Satyam’s financial irregularities, India’s IT-BPO services industry finds itself under increased financial scrutiny from Wall St analysts and corporate clients. However, while Satyam has a major challenge ahead to maintain its market position, and is a likely takeover target, we do not believe this fiasco will have longer-term ramifications for the Indian services sector, as long as Satyam’s creative accounting turns out to be an isolated incident and not a more pervasive problem across the sector.

http://fersht.typepad.com/the_outsourcing_bloghorse/2009/01/satyam-it-was-like-riding-a-tiger-not-knowing-how-to-get-off-without-being-eaten.html

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Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

PokerPlayerPhil

I say the Elderettes might do a better job than most Elders because they probably got a higher education on average!

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Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

PokerPlayerPhil

Jake when Smart Money or Old Money is involved usually lawyers on each side draw up the financial arrangements instead of Watchtower "Trust me and sign this!" deeds. The family's parents invented some gadget we all use daily and many more, Watchtower would have liked the parents to hand that lump some over unconditionally without the ability to call that money but the mother was shrewd to have her lawyers make sure the kids could get that money when they needed after a grace period with the Watchtower. They held that money for over a decade, too bad all that interest free cash got taken away because their run-away PO and his wife had a grudge against them. It's sad we all don't have the same economic value(spiritual value) in the eyes of the Organization, money talks with Watchtower and Publishers without can walk out without being heard from again!

I wish I could get all the nitty-gritty details on this because we could put yoke in the Organization's eye by showing how it's all about the Green Handshakes and Mattresses, not intrinsic value of each Publisher! I enjoyed your insights on this topic, it sounds like you know all to well how "get together", gatherings can be used to punish families or single people that did not do anything wrong or refused to become embroiled in some nasty intra-family hate feud!

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Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

PokerPlayerPhil

I never meant this to be a male vs female situation, all I wanted to know was which sex in your Kingdom Hall seemed to display qualities not so befitting of a Christian. When it comes to Judicial Comittites men are suppose to think for themselves but some men would share intimate details with their wives and get their wife's input on how to execute directions from the Slave.

Social Circles in my area, actually I saw that men could stomp on the invites of people or families they considered weak where the women actually wanted the families to show off their wealth or JW Prestige which is another odd piece of data about the Kingdom Hall I use to attend. There were two Elders in a verbal fight and soon the Kingdom Hall divided up in to three fragments, those on Elder A's side, those on Elder B's side and those who wanted to know "Why in the Hell the Kingdom Hall is fragmented and behaving like Junior High School kids?'. Social Circles in other Kingdom Halls were controlled by the women because more often than not, the bad JW men were working one or two jobs to keep their family afloat while their nasty wives were working part-time and had more time to help design the gathering and plot who would not be invited out of sheer spite. Please note the majority of JWs are not bad (men and women), a few can really bring out qualities they escaped from their churches or dysfunctional families to the promised family the Watchtower's publications said was waiting for "honest heart'ed ones seeking a real family Jesus spoke about" only to learn this was another lie!

The Circuit Overseer called several families because the entire Kingdom Hall was invited to a function except three families and boy where they pissed off. The root of the problem was the families not invited would not get involved with the Kingdom Hall politics, they refused to take sides and ended up not getting invited while those who voted for Pedro and Cathy all got invited, that was contrived by two elderettes confirmed by the CO who investigated this because one of the uninvited families asked for their "Conditional Donation" back, they called the Paper and the Watchtower wanted to know why!

The moral of the story is, take a side in Kingdom Hall Politics unless you loaned the Watchtower almost Eight Figures because they will get to the root of who or what was behind the evil in your Kingdom Hall. I wonder if that Elder knew that family had "family money" sitting in the Watchtower's Safety deposit box? He still got his money back is what I heard and the Watchtower was very upset losing all that capital over petty hateful squabbles!

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How Come the Watchtower does not admit "We Don't Know Anything About Bible Prophecy" and come clean?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

so many of us have been caught up in the negative effects this religion placed over our lives and those who we love very much.

i am the first one to tell my kids "i don't know s&^^ about this or that subject", if the watchtower is truly our brother or spiritual mother why don't they tell us the following questions we all have asked them?.

1. we screwed up about 1914 and "life is short, go live your life to the fullest while maintaining justice and morality, don't hurt your fellow man by making his life screwed up!.

PokerPlayerPhil

Finkel, what value is the Watchtower providing for any of their sheep? The Publishing Company's continuity is more important than the Publishers right to a happy life not filled with chronic anxiety and panic provided by all the False Alarms the Watchtower sends!

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Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

PokerPlayerPhil

talespin, each person's experience in the Cult will differ, others will have more men being the most evil while in my case our Kingdom Hall had a very unusual number of sisters that were mean and spiteful and filled with bitterness, no Serpents about it!

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Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

PokerPlayerPhil

Jake, remember those shirts popular in the 1980s saying "INSTANT ASSHOLE JUST ADD WHISKY"? Regarding many JWs most good people don't morph, it's those who feel the World treated them like dirt and now their going to lord it over their fellow witnesses who are desperately looking at them for guidance! The Bible and everything it stands for contradicts what these POs or COBEs do, the Bible has nothing to do with their actions.

Moses spent forty years developing something God would use, he never wanted the power or glory. Moses as used and because a intercessor between God and Israel, he really loved his people so much. Looking at the Governing Body is it any wonder Elders act like they do, going beyond what is written? I don't understand how anyone who can read the Bible come's away with a idea that "arrogance", "pride over others" and tyranny is needed to guide his fellow friends or flock! Why do they have some unnatural sense of self-esteem bought at the cost of their fellow publishers? That old shirt, "Instant Asshole just add Liquor" applies unfortunately with many JW Elders and Elderettes!

INSTANT ASSHOLE JUST ADD TITLES!

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They only care about themselves......

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

i've watched the reaction to the nepal disaster for the first time with eyes opened.

lots of comments about praying for the brothers and sisters affected.

the official release on the website references only the sister and her two children that died, along with the impact on the brothers there.

PokerPlayerPhil

I think those who worked at Bethel would know(have deeper insights since they were at center of this spider) about this subject because on a local level we can tell you that all we saw was "Nothing when a natural disaster hit our area!"

Katrina I heard they only helped the Witnesses and asked the Witness to give back any insurance or FEMA monies and some had to sign a piece of paper promising to return any assets the Government gave them!

When one of the big Hurricanes hit Florida I heard about Witnesses leaving from the West to make lots of money on that disaster. No mention of helping, all the Witnesses that followed one group got screwed over and had to steal from this JW Elder Contractor because they refused to pay his employees!

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Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

PokerPlayerPhil

I would have to say I've seen more wicked Elder-ettes and JW Women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow JW commit-ed against them!

I wish I could share the details about my Aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance. The Kingdom Hall she attend's is the world's worst Kingdom Hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good Witnesses who left the Organization because the Elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

Were the men in positions more wicked than the women in positions and their tag-along friends who display equal opportunity hated?

Which sex stumbled more people out of the Organization if you really ponder that thought, did you see evil from both husband and wife or more from one of the sexes?