Violia, I'm sorry you feel personally threatened by all of this, but really, it came off as rather threatening to me, too, more so than in the past. I live on the Arabian Peninsula where they are unashamed to not accept other religions graciously (although Christians who don't evangelize are not abused). I don't know of a single JW in the place, nor in Egypt, my new homeland, though I am sure there are a few undercover ones. I am not feeling threatened by them, and I think my mom, nuts as she is, is not a threat if I visit her. Still, I am not eager to hang around areas where my former JW affiliation and current aversion are well known! Besides, if and when there is an Armageddon, I think I am best off being right here in the very middle of the action:) Any input I get will be from the Creator, not any wanna be crony suck ups who think they need to do personal vengence on behalf of the WTBTS. I am fine with any Godly intervention in my life. Not so much with His 'friends' who are trying to score points.
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The Watchtower Society Crossed a Line by Praising a "Slaughter of Apostates"
by DT ini just had to say it.
i don't mean to detract from other threads on the topic.
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Now that the S**t is hitting the fan how are the JW's reacting??
by highdose inthis article is starting to go global now i think ( please everyone keep it spreading) how are the jw's reacting to it?
i don't mean the offical spokesman statement, i mean the individual jw's that we know.. what are they saying about it?.
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MikeJWalsh is kind of f**ing brilliant in that the way you put it Mad. Wish I was that clever!
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Member of Parliament's reply to my email regarding "Mentally Diseased" Watchtower
by Amelia Ashton inif i could offer my perspective.
issues around free speech are some of the most difficult.
balancing the right of someone being able to say what they want against the "harm" that might cause.
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JWdaughter
The point was made that it is not usually one letter that politicians pay attention to: it's a movement. There needs to be a MASS of letters, articles, issues, suits, whatever-THEN politicians will feel compelled to act.
I would also like to compliment the MP simply for responding with such a thoughtful letter. Even if it all adds up to 'not much', he actually was paying attention and that is one straw on the back of the camel. We just need a lot more of them!
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Iran plans to send ships close to US waters
by Iamallcool inhttp://news.yahoo.com/iran-plans-send-ships-close-us-waters-report-175624866.html .
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You guys, don't be too dismissive of the Iranian military. They don't have to win-they don't CARE about winning. They want to start trouble, and I think we saw how much damage a few men who want to start troublecan do with very little 'firepower'. 10 years and 18 days ago, I think it was proven that a few men could set fire to the world in a very literal way, as well as metaphorically. Don't be cocky-they don't even CARE about winning, they are about proving a point-and you can bet that people will die, one way or the other, for them to do it. How many have died since9/11/01? That was 4 planes and 19 men. Tens/Hundreds of thousands dead. Economy is shattered. Eh, how big of a military force did OBL have? Think about it.
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onacruise - Craig Mills 1952-2011
by Lady Lee ini was given the link to a bit of information regarding on old poster/moderator of this forum.
i was not sure of the validity of the information so have been trying to find out if it is true.. earlier today craig's estranged wife, kate, (bikerchic) confirmed that craig died at his home on aug 10, 2011.. i am sure that many people here remember craig's time here and how he went out of his way to offer support to posters, even calling them, to give whatever help he could as they adjusted to their post-jw lives.. i know many people here will grieve his loss.. --------------.
ps i tried posting this earlier but the computer i was working with would not allow the posts.
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I'm saddened to hear this information. I hope his family finds some way to be comforted in this time of grief. What a sad loss for all. He was so young, it isn't news I would have expected to hear. My best to Kate and the family who loved him.
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Watch Iran
by JWdaughter ini live in qatar, which is about 150 miles from iran.
iran is up to some things which the west is largely poo-poo-ing.
people here are not-and i'm not talking al-jazeera only, but a lot of the local arabic stations are really paying attention.
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I live in Qatar, which is about 150 miles from Iran. Iran is up to some things which the west is largely poo-poo-ing. People HERE are not-and I'm not talking al-Jazeera only, but a lot of the local Arabic stations are really paying attention. Not sure if they are over-reacting, but I think they have a more vested interest than the US-this region has experienced more than its usual unfair share of turmoil as of late, Saleh is back in Yemen, Ghadaffi is missing and Iran is playing its tricks, all while Palestine is petitioning for statehood. I think this is a mess you all need to make note of=not in an apocalyptic way, but in a "world events are bigger than the latest UAW strike" kind of way.
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Some JWs are exhibiting signs of violence because of WT hate speech. Read the threat to me and others posted at Topix yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inyesterday, i opened a topix account so i could post the information about watch tower representatives attending the political ocse meeting in poland for two weeks and the proof that they are an ngo.
one of the posters responded with these words: .
"barbs-info," eh?
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Unforgivable sin-apostacy against the org---doesn't surprise when one remembers the new baptismal formula. . . .And the "holy Spirit directed organization" Or whatever-it was something like that.
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Some JWs are exhibiting signs of violence because of WT hate speech. Read the threat to me and others posted at Topix yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inyesterday, i opened a topix account so i could post the information about watch tower representatives attending the political ocse meeting in poland for two weeks and the proof that they are an ngo.
one of the posters responded with these words: .
"barbs-info," eh?
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JWdaughter
We need to remember this is the same organization that had a not of apology even regret when it reminded us that in the OT times children who were disobedient should be stoned. This was, I believe, in an article that was speaking to the issues of the 'apostate' or unbelieving children who were living with parents. The regret seemed to extend to the principles of Christian life that along with secular authorities, would not allow this kind of corrective action (killing the child) to be exercised by parents.
So, that someone wants to shoot the messenger shouldn't surprise any of us. We can still condemn that kind of hateful ugliness, however. And rightly so.
Be safe, sister Barbara. I can think of at least two of those hateful women over there who would as soon shoot any of us than speak to us in a civil way.
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Are you sick of conspiracy nuts?.....9/11
by Witness 007 inyes apparently the staff at the twin towers on 9/11 didn't notice the explosives strapped to all the beams on each floor......of course a plane fully loaded with jet fuel going so fast it nearly flew through the building {blew out the otherside} would not be enough to cause a collapse.
the building were glowing red!
people jumped due to the heat and smoke.
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Anyone else wonder why it took so much money and planning to do the 9-11 thing? Seriously, it was a few plane tickes and box knives? This was the great master plan, given by OBL that required millions of dollars? I think they waste money like the government does. And you all should be comforted-
There are tons of places to get training to fly airplanes in the middle east. I live next to one. There are thousands of Muslim men and wowho are capable of doing what the terrorists did on 9-11. The fact is, there are not many Muslims that would ever in a million years, be willing to do such a thing. Not because they are cowards, because many would defend their beliefs and family and fellow Muslims. They do not believe that what happened was remotely Islamic. It was flat out wrong and they would not support that. There are over a billion Muslims and I believe they did not find one single airline pilot (already trained and there are plenty of them, I meet them every day living near an airport and in a building of flats with about a dozen Muslim pilots) that was willing to do this. They had to send out men who had no training and train them from scratch.
Sorry, I got off topic on the sunni/shia muslim thing. There were without arguement, several muslims-about 20, certainly that apparently were involved with the plot. What do the conspiracy theorists have to say about the men and OBL's claim that he planned it? I know that some Muslims are in denial as to even OBL really having had a hand in it, but I think they are simply so appalled by the entire thing that they cannot reconcile themselves to the entire scheme being muslim at all.
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Are you sick of conspiracy nuts?.....9/11
by Witness 007 inyes apparently the staff at the twin towers on 9/11 didn't notice the explosives strapped to all the beams on each floor......of course a plane fully loaded with jet fuel going so fast it nearly flew through the building {blew out the otherside} would not be enough to cause a collapse.
the building were glowing red!
people jumped due to the heat and smoke.
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AGuest, the only reason I was compelled to correct you was that there is a huge difference between Shia and Sunni, and I didn't know how much that impacted your theory generally, as you were making correlations between the religions of the various nations in the region.
Just to correct some terminology, women in Saudi usually wear abayas, which are the long black/or other color robes. They usually cover their hair. However, the legal requirement in KSA is to dress modestly, and women are seen in most urban parts of the country w/o scarves, other than riyaad, which is very conservative, as well as, I would assume Makkah and Medina, which are the holy cities and closed to non muslims.
One thing you need to realize is that KSA is Wahabbi like America is Christian-which is to say there are Wahabbi's and there are Wahabbis. And you are right, Salafi is the preferred term-Wahabbi is the name of a man, and Muslims do not want to be followers of men in any way or glorify them. This is much of the core and root of the issue between Sunni and Shia, as Shia are very prone towards sanctifying certain descendants of Muhammed and build shrines to them. Some of their holidays are in fact giving honor to these other men to a degree that most of Islam would recoil from it-traditionally, it involves self mutilation with razors and knives, flaggelation, etc. KSA is a Sunni country, and it doesn't promote or allow other religions-Shia is not considered as Muslim when it goes beyond the borders of accepted practice according to the Quran-pilgrimage to Makkah is accepted. The near worship of descendants of Muhammed is considered forbidden. Mutilation is even forbidden by Shia fatwa, but the practice is widespread.
Women in KSA are not required to cover their faces, and in fact, it is NOT ALLOWED for them to do so at the most holy places of all to them, Makkah and Medina. Burkahs are more of a Afghani thing, I think, perhaps some in Pakistan. There is a mix of shia and sunni in Afghanistan and Pakistan-I couldn't even tell you which wear burkahs. They can both be conservative or liberal-depending on whose standards you are going by. Standards of modesty and correct behavior vary regionally. They are very diverse countries.
Iran used to be very westernized and made a sharp turn back to traditional ways when forced by a conservative element who took over. They arent Arab, but I will be interested to see what transpires there since I am very physically close to that action. Bahrain has a lot of Iranian Shia, so pay attention!