Posts by JWdaughter

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BORG running low on $$$??

by fader77 in

dear brothers:.

re: personal literature supply.

reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.

I can't believe that they even have the nerve to say that even though we have changed our doctrine and are revising this literature, we still want you to distirbute it until we provide you with the updated (crap) literature.

On two levels this bugs me. First of all, they are teaching what they NOW believe to be falsehoods to folks, SECOND, is this not the religion that brags that while they make adjustments to their understanding, that no critical teachings have changed? Have they just defined critical as those things that they have NOT yet changed? Cause I personally think that changing the definiton of the FDS is kind of critical. Just saying.

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More WTS cash-grabbing: "Funds on Deposit" program for Circuits

by sir82 in

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at a recent circuit assembly "business meeting" for elders, a new program was announced: "funds on deposit".. here's how it works:.

each circuit determines a "floor" and a "ceiling" for an amount to hold in their circuit checking account.

when the "ceiling" amount is exceeded, the amount above the threshold is wired to the wts and held by them.. if the circuit checking account drops below the "floor" amount, the circuit can send a request to the wts to request that some of their "funds on deposit" be returned to them so that their checking account resumes a "safe" level.. as explained by the elder explaining the program,, "in other words, the branch is acting exactly like a bank - the circuit will make deposits and withdrawals as needed.

JWdaughter

Hmmmm. So, they are pulling back all the moral leadership by turning everything to the circuit/districts/congregation so far as leadership, but so far as MONEY, they all need everyone to pull together and put it all into one (their) pot.

Isn't the money trail as much a liability to them as the people trail is?

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Spanking VS. Reasoning

by SpeedRacer in

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i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.

should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.

they both agree with spanking.

JWdaughter

I had a couple of "You are getting spanked because I REALLY NEED YOU TO PAY ATTENTION" episodes. You know, where their disobedience puts them in real physical danger. I never beat them, but I personally did not think that the two year old could be reasoned with about why I didn't want her in the street. Run into the street and you get spanked is a lot more of a "reason" than any conversation I have ever had with a two year old.

Generally, I agree with the reasoning tactic. With few and rare exceptions where the reason is applied a few times briskly to the posterior.

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My Wife Now Questions God

by Jon Preston in

well my wife and i have been through a roller coaster of life since i convinced her the dibs werent the truth.

the hardest tests have been lived but we are closer than ever now.

now recently shes read "the shack" nd watched some movies about god and just cant seem to inderstand why god would allow all of this suffering just to prove to satan that hes "the man" (or woman).

JWdaughter

Even the bible addresses those who don't "know God" but who have a sense of what is right and wrong. See Romans 2. Not sure how or if this is anything applicable to your conversations with wife. I will offer my input. I think a lot of us get a little ambivalent about God at some point in our life journey. There is often an outside event or crisis or wonder that pulls us back in. I had one. My husband did, too. The point is, growing pains sometimes make us uncomfortable (or those around us-think adolescents).

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I'm out- Random thoughts on leaving as I look in the rear view mirror

by Skinnedsheep in

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it is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken.

i went from being an elder to fading completely in the course of those three years.

along the way i am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the truth is nothing but a lie.

JWdaughter

This all takes time-and I am glad that after 3 years you see how good it is and how sweet life can be. I hope that KateWild soon gets a taste of the sweet! I am so glad that your life is positive and satisfying. You offer hope to others who are going through the rough spots. After a certain time, life becomes what it can be, rather than just fixing up your regretful choices. You look like you have reached the profitable part of things (initial start up costs are often killers for folks!)

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Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

by barry in

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one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

JWdaughter

This is interesting. As an American who lived through the War of Independence (ok, not really, but I do remember the centennial) I learned that having ones voice heard really does matter to people and when they feel that is not respected, it causes problems. Having seen the results of NO repreresentation (for real) while living in the MENA region, I am speaking with actual first hand experience of the climate it produces. I think a nice referendum is a cool way to solve the issue-it's very civilized.

A representative government is important. If Scots felt they were truly being represented, I doubt it would have come to this. If the referendum does not go through, then I hope that the govt of the UK will make the changes that it needs to so that there are no second class kingdoms in the UK. There is a root problem at issue. Address it and fix it. Now, isn't that easy? (Ok, nothing is, but wouldn't it be nice if it WERE that simple??)

No matter what happens, I hope it is good for everyone ultimately.

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"how did we do?" service meeting part

by nowwhat? in

the elder was just giddy with excitement!

20,000 hours put in!

14,000 tracts and brochures!

JWdaughter

2.28 years of LIFE totally wasted. Not even just work hours. Over 2 years of LIVING just blown away. Just kinda sad.

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If money were no object where would you live?

by usualusername in

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my money is on tuscany, italy at the moment..

JWdaughter

I'd travel more and spend a lot of summer time with my son and my mom wherever they'd prefer, but I'd want a home where it is warm. I never want to be near snow. I want palm trees. I want a beach, sunshine and breeze. Maybe the Caribbean? Maybe the Mediterranean? Spain? I loved the ME and Egypt but will avoid Egypt for awhile:)

My "price is no object" home will have a very private garden with a pool in the back. And a maids room. Seriously, I would be such a hermit and live in the garden like a fairy:)

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Was Charles Russell delusional or just a con artist?

by keyser soze in

i've seen him referred to as both on this forum.. did he sincerely believe that he was an inspired prophet whose end-time predictions and biblical interpretations came from god?

or was he just a shrewd businessman who saw a market of disillusioned christians who believed that armageddon was imminent that he could exploit?.

i personally lean toward the latter.. .

JWdaughter

Didn't he sink his personal wealth into ventures which the courts would not touch so that his ex wife would not get any kind of settlement or alimony? It seems like (from what I remember) his reason for moving to NY had less to do with shipping issues than it did with getting out of the long arm of Pennsylvania law and his ex wife.

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My jw mum threw us out.

by abbasgreta in

my brother (non-jw but became a christian 6 months ago) and i nursed my aged jw mother back to a semblance of strength over the last three weeks.. the elders were happy to pass the buck on to me, her da'd daughter and my bro.. he has been living with her for 3 months and has transformed her ill-kept home and garden and literally nursed her like a professional alone.

before i stepped in to help him care for her.

he repeatedly told her how much he loved her and was so caring, it brought a lump to my throat.. he has been going to church sunday mornings, telling her he 'was meeting up with friends' so as not to cause friction.but she knew where he had been.. we noticed a shift in her demeanour towards us (she knows i'm a church-goer) over the week-end and she started to.

JWdaughter

I'm sorry that your mom is this way. I'm glad you and your brother have each other. I am sad for your mom because she ran out on the people that actually loved and cared for her and I doubt that the congregation will pick up the slack.

I think the newest WTs are scaring JWs off of dealing with anyone not JW. They will get the benefit of their own perfidy, I guess when all the elderly JWs run off their caregivers.

Very sad. You got out alive and safe though, which is good. Appreciate it.