JWdaughter
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Somebody forgot where they parked
by JeffT inhow does this happen?http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/aviation/malaysia-aviation-airport-abandoned-aircraft/
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JWdaughter
Nice to know how accurate and up to date that they keep airliner records. With all the disappearing planes, blown up planes, terrorism, evil governments (N. Korea!) and other random badness, you'd think they'd know who owns million dollar airliners! What good are the IDs on the planes if registering them seems to be optional? -
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More than half of UK population is non-religious
by bemused inthe british humanist association web-site has reported on the results of the british social attitudes survey, which is a major annual survey, the latest report covering the year 2013:.
https://humanism.org.uk/campaigns/religion-and-belief-some-surveys-and-statistics/the-british-social-attitudes-survey/.
for the first time, those people saying they are not members of any religious group are in the majority in the uk, up by three percentage points from 47.7% to 50.6% in just one year.
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JWdaughter
I could tell you of a couple of trendy clubs in Cairo if you want the bellydancers and the middle eastern vibe. And lots of Stella. -
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State lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses
by Coded Logic inthe first of many lawsuits?.
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november 09, 2015. wilmington, delaware the attorney general's office is suing elders of the sussex county congregation for not reporting an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were congregation members.. state law requires any person, agency, organization or entity who knows or in good faith suspects that a child is being abused or neglected to call a 24-hour hotline.
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JWdaughter
The mom made the kid tell the elders and the elders forced it out of the perpetrator. Penitence would be if either had come to the elders willingly. The child was a victim and disfellowshiped (lovely, lovely religion that it is!) and the elders didn't think they needed to report a full grown woman having sex with a child.
EVERYONE is supposed to report. That means them. The mom took her sweet time, btw, but at least she did the right thing ultimately.
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In the past we taught it, but now we teach other thing....
by opusdei1972 ini have been reading the watchtower study edition of march 2016. here some deceptive statements so as to justify their new lights:.
when were gods people held captive by babylon the great?.
that spiritual captivity lasted from the second century c.e.
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JWdaughter
Never heard the flat earth as a reason for that one. . . I do like how NOW they pat themselves on the back for not being dogmatic (LOL). 1918/1919 . . . well, that bit was pretty self serving and allowed them to keep their date while changing its meaning by 180 degrees! They literally turned it upside down! They are kinda sneaky that way, eh? They did the same thing when Jesus return in 1914 wasn't visible. . . when everyone had forgotten that he was already invisibly present before 1914 (from an earlier no show where he was declared invisibly returned), he suddenly got invisible and present (newly) in 1914. That Jesus had all kinds of trick up his sleeve!
Talk about being doomed to repeat history.
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Obama to speak from the Oval Office tonight (8:00 eastern)
by Coded Logic inthis will be only the 3rd time he's spoken from the oval office in his seven years so it's probably going to be something pretty big.
combat troops being sent into syria?
unilateral movement on gun control?.
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JWdaughter
Was it the president or a fox commentator thay mentioned how they were able to run al queda out of iraq? Didnt al quaeda essentially morph into daesh which are now everywhere? I dont think transferring the terrorists is the same as ending terrorism. -
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Bible Versus Quran Experiment - Genius!
by cofty inabsolutely brilliant social experiment.
enjoy.. ....
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JWdaughter
Monotheism
No church required
Jesus respected not worshipped
I love the ideals of most of what jesus taught though I thought much of the nt was not jesus.I tried atheism and didnt ever buy it. So im a believer thst thinks jesus mattered, but couldnt worship him. Didnt sccept bible as completely inspired. Islam makes sense, even if some muslims are f'd up.
I dont call jws, christians or atheists idiots. I dont accept that from them either. I will pick on stupid actions by anyone and I have publcly cricized ectremism and isis actions, but a perfectly nice person does not get belittled by me and you have all known me long enough to know that is and has been true of me for all of our acquintance. I have been here a long time.
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Bible Versus Quran Experiment - Genius!
by cofty inabsolutely brilliant social experiment.
enjoy.. ....
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JWdaughter
To the girl next door re:
The reality is, religious moderates take their scripture “out of context” more than they’d like to think. Islamic apologists, for instance, like to quote the verse 2:256, which says there is “no compulsion in religion.” They won’t tell you (and many don’t know themselves) that the very next verse, 2:257, says that those who do choose to disbelieve will be “companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein.” You’ll also hear them quote verse5:32, which says, “Whoever kills a soul…it is as if he had slain all mankind. And whoever saves one—it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.” But again, if you read on to the very next verse,5:33, you’ll see that Allah wants anyone opposing him or his messenger to “be killed or crucified…their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides,” for “causing corruption.”
Context? The first verse was that there is no compulsion in religion (which is something we practice on earth) and the next says that God will deal with unbelievers in hell. So, there is no contradictions that humans are not to force other humans into a religion. (compulsion)
5:33 is speaking of a defense of attacks, not randomly killing killing people. It is always best to choose peace over war, but 5:33 is speaking about those who wage war against the community. If one has war waged against them, a defensive response is not evil or foolish.
This is not about context really. Just read the verses that you are claiming say particular things.
Oh, and most folks who know v. 32 are aware of 33. Likewise 256, 257. These are famous and apologists in particular have them thrown at them regularly:) However, most properly educated kids learn BOTH those verses when they are probably 10 years old. The biggest issue is that many of them learn it improperly-just in ARABIC when they speak some other language. I have heard Muslims brag about their kids reading the quran beautifully and they have NOT ONE IOTA of an idea about what the words mean. They just learned to recite it absolutely perfectly. (Its an art form among Muslims to be able to recite the Quran beautifully and there are competitions like Miss America and spelling bees etc on this) In schools nowadays, the comprehension is being focused on a lot more, but formerly, really understanding it was left to academics, which accounts for why the religion has been able to be hijacked by extremists. Like JWs, they too can take things out of context to say what they want the message to be. Truth be darned.
As a Muslim, it was hard enough to deal with Alquada types. They were not really that vast, just effective. ISIS is a game changer for all of us, it has made us all suspect, villians and dangerous to much of the world. And I can't blame the world for being scared, because I am too. The teacher I had before I moved here encouraged new Muslims to not give up family traditions, though they should not engage in worshipful activity as a part of them. I go to company christmas parties, family parties and the town christmas tree lighting. Or I did. I rethink things too, because contrary to popular opinion, Terrorists do not have a sneaky way of warning regular Muslims that they are going to attack. I don't do malls, ever, but I shy away from popular restaurants and rarely see movies.
A restaurant near where I lived in Cairo was firebombed-probably not terrorist, but that was the first thought, right?)-and all I could think was that I went there with my husband about 7 years ago. This all hits really close to my home. I'm sorry I went so Off topic, but this is changing my life for the same reasons that it is changing yours-plus I get hate messages from relatives on FB, disowned by other relatives and shunned by others. I have the shunning from the religion I left and the one I joined. It feels pretty crappy in both directions, FYI. And being called an idiot by everyone left over is just all kinds of fun.
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Unfollow - How a prized daughter of the Westboro Baptist Church came to question its beliefs.
by Captain Schmideo2 inhttp://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/23/conversion-via-twitter-westboro-baptist-church-megan-phelps-roper?mbid=social_twitter.
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JWdaughter
Ah, yes. The cross! I did that one too, personally! IN fact, I tried to do a school paper on it and had to use resources beyond the WT literature. This actually was a factor in my learning the truth about the truth (TTATT). I did the paper. I also played the WT games so that I could tell the story I wanted to tell. That sat on my conscience like you would not believe. It also opened my eyes to what we do as JWs and humans to prove our point. Honestly becomes less important than proving that we are right. It took me decades to get over the need to be proven "right". Mostly:) -
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Bible Versus Quran Experiment - Genius!
by cofty inabsolutely brilliant social experiment.
enjoy.. ....
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Unfollow - How a prized daughter of the Westboro Baptist Church came to question its beliefs.
by Captain Schmideo2 inhttp://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/23/conversion-via-twitter-westboro-baptist-church-megan-phelps-roper?mbid=social_twitter.
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JWdaughter
LoveUni. . . .I grew up in the era where checking "christian" in a box was pretty much denying our faith. If our option was Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or other, we were to chose other. Identifying ourselves with Christendom at that time was pretty much anathema. Now they changed the name to "Christian Witnesses" because all those years that I was in pretty much convinced the world that JWs didn't consider themselves to be Chritians, between correcting (in those days) anyone who asked what church we went to (had to clarify it wasn't a church, that it was a KH and if possible, lecture them on the WT explanation of church and why we didn't call it that. It was an obnoxious time). If we were wished Happy Easter or Merry Christmas-again, we had to correct and educate them on the subjects if at all possible.
Now, I see JWs commonly referring to the org as a church. I think they even did during the ARC. I still think they flinch a little at that. My mom still lectures on Christmas and why she doesn't hand out Halloween candy or look forward to any holiday.