Posts by JWdaughter

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Dunkin Donut style KH

by GreenhornChristian in

has anyone seen one of the new design kh's and taken pics?

i'm curious to see.

Just a really messed up situation

by My Name is of No Consequence in

a quick summary of my situation: i have known ttatt since at least 2010. my wife and teenage son are still in.

i only mention that because it is relevant in this situation.

you can see some of my previous posts for additional details.

Make sure that your son knows that no matter what, he IS your son and you will always have his back. Keep as good of communication (in front of her or otherwise) as you can and do your best not to be acrimonious with mom in front of him. He needs to know how to contact you, no matter what mom is up to or what she ends up doing.

I guess you are in the marriage for him at this point. You do whatever you need to regarding mom, but always leave a open door to your son. Don't worry about the baptism so much other than to just state the facts when he can hear. If you have no legal rights and no ability to speak privately, then speak publicly and factually and without rancour.

My son's stepdad never had "legal" rights to him, but I never would have kept him from his stepdad, no matter what. That was his dad and he still is, they still have a good relationship, though we are divorced. I think it is the shittiest thing in the world to play with the hearts of children in a divorce situation.

Just let him know that your love him unconditionally.

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Disassociation Announcement

by Paul Bonanno in

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did anyone experience a disassociation announcement during the public meeting instead during the service meeting?.

in my case it was announced the next day that we submitted our letter and this was on sunday instead of waiting for the service meeting on thursday..

JWdaughter

Well, in the end, it's not changing anything for you. Ultimately, the timing will only hurt the doofus who announced it, though even that's unlikely

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Millennial hopes?

by JWdaughter in

it's been a long time since i was in, so please school me on this subject.

if, in wt teaching, jesus took over his "kingdom" in 1914, doesn't that mean that in wt world view, that the millennium is more than 100 years gone already?

if the last 102 years is a foretaste of his power, then eternity is looking more interesting than i anticipated..

JWdaughter

I am asking so that if a JW ever shows up at my door (more likely I would approach one of the human magazine racks sitting on a bench) that I could ask them. I don't like to go into those conversations without knowing what they are actually teaching. I am a little confused on how that one goes these days.

Skin, I will go find that magazine, thanks so much.

Thanks to everyone. If nothing else, we can see that JWs are probably not going to have a firm response on this most critical issue or a firm anything. Well, they probably were schooled about their handshake at last weeks meeting. It might be firm.

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Nobody at work knows what JWs believe

by Athanasius in

recently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.

the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.

anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".

JWdaughter

Most JWs don't know much more than ignorant householders. Hard to keep up! I would agree that their campaign is clearly ineffectual when one considers that many don't think JWs even believe in Jesus.

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Millennial hopes?

by JWdaughter in

it's been a long time since i was in, so please school me on this subject.

if, in wt teaching, jesus took over his "kingdom" in 1914, doesn't that mean that in wt world view, that the millennium is more than 100 years gone already?

if the last 102 years is a foretaste of his power, then eternity is looking more interesting than i anticipated..

JWdaughter

I'm bumping this. Bad timing, though,

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Millennial hopes?

by JWdaughter in

it's been a long time since i was in, so please school me on this subject.

if, in wt teaching, jesus took over his "kingdom" in 1914, doesn't that mean that in wt world view, that the millennium is more than 100 years gone already?

if the last 102 years is a foretaste of his power, then eternity is looking more interesting than i anticipated..

JWdaughter

It's been a long time since I was in, so please school me on this subject.

If, in WT teaching, Jesus took over his "kingdom" in 1914, doesn't that mean that in WT world view, that the millennium is more than 100 years gone already?

If the last 102 years is a foretaste of his power, then eternity is looking more interesting than I anticipated.

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ARC - where to start?

by thereishope in

i'm hoping for help in finding a starting point, somewhere to direct my husband.

i brought up a little bit about the arc spoken of so widely here on the forum.

i just gave him a bit of a hint a few days ago, and he wanted to hear nothing of it - the old you can't believe everything you read.

JWdaughter

The thing we need to be careful of in dealing with JWs is that we direct them to non apostate sites, or posts by people who don't seem to have it in for the org. Cedars(and similar resources) is unfortunately not neutral. It would be great to get a bunch of links to sites that present this without a lot of our snide commentaries, irreverent cartoons, and generally mocking attitudes so that JWs are not immediately defending against apostates.

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Not on jw.org : Jehovah's Witness van driver arrested for ignoring rape of child

by JimmyPage in

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http://5newsonline.com/2016/06/23/report-van-driver-arrested-for-not-stopping-rape-of-child/.

i don't believe the article says he's a jw, but he is..

JWdaughter

I gotta say, even with all I know that happens in the congregation, I don't see how a JW, elder or not, could justify such a thing to themselves. Whether Byrd is a JW or not, he is monstrous to have allowed this to go on (apparently with more than one victim!) without intervening to stop it.How could he DO that to a child?

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Using the depression card: Only when critical to family?

by JWdaughter in

i just was reading a thread and it occurred to me that "using" depression as a way to deflect from wt obligations is a mistake.

it feeds their sense of superiority-because when you do finally leave or get kicked out, they will say how leaving jehovah ruins lives.

they won't do anything with you anymore in any case, but why feed their delusions?.

JWdaughter

I just was reading a thread and it occurred to me that "using" depression as a way to deflect from WT obligations is a mistake. It feeds their sense of superiority-because when you do finally leave or get kicked out, they will say how leaving Jehovah ruins lives. They won't do anything with you anymore in any case, but why feed their delusions?

Yes, the WT does put people in depressions, but how about being too HAPPY to put up with all the doomsaying? How about life being too good to live like it is over already? The weather is too good, the kids are filled with energy and busy with school, work is going great. . . We always say that living well is the best revenge-so LIVE WELL, and crow about your joy. Not in being out of the org, but in being part of this glorious world that God created for us! Then invite them to dinner and have fun without religion being the topic. YOU will not forsake the gathering of yourselves with other believers, you just don't want to waste your time in the meetings when all they do is repeat the same stuff you already learned. Nothing about Jehovah's word changes, right? You actively read and study scripture! When it comes down to it, you are not doing anything against the WT or the elders. If you are going to play a game, take the highest road possible (might want to refrain from offering them a joint, though!).

What kind of an asshole JW is going to argue that statement? (I know the atheists on this board will take issue with it, but you are dealing with JWs, not atheists). Being in the org was depressing, sure. But you are OUT now, even if you don't want to DA for family reasons Stop being depressed. Stop playing that card.

I think that it also puts those who are truly depressed in a bit of a pickle when it starts getting obvious that it is a common apostate ploy to get out of meetings. God knows that the JW life is depressing enough-all we need to be doing is making it harder on those that are suffering from a real illness as a result of this cult.

Emotionally, the WT has done a number on everyone it touches. I guess I prefer the idea of promoting happiness and a truly better life as an alternative to meeting attendance rather than depression and vague physical illnesses. My idea is not going to work in every situation, and I'm so long out of it that I am not a good experiment for how it works, but I saw the office space video ( can't say I'm "missing" it) on another site and it got me to thinking. Life is good! Why put a sad face on things and give them any ammo about how leaving jehovah/meetings destroys lives?