Posts by JWdaughter

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Cart "Witnessing"

by Funchback in

besides being a waste of time for those doing it, and being an easy way for the society to inflate its reports of time spent in the ministry, cart witnessing is also taking up space.

i live in a hot city in brazil.

today, the jws decided to set up their cart in the shady spot of the bus stop, where people going to work have to wait for the bus.. ugh!.

"Sharing in this initiative has been very rewarding. One couple wrote: “Standing at the table and seeing thousands of people go by each day has impressed upon our hearts the vast work that is being done to reach people all around the world. Seeing these masses of people and thinking about how Jehovah truly cares for each person has strengthened our resolve to continue putting the preaching work at the center of our lives. We imagine Jehovah scanning the hearts of all those who pass by the table, searching for those who are worthy. We have rarely felt so close to our angelic coworkers.”

Its funny how joyful they feel by watching all the thousands of people WALKING BY THEM each day. Not stopping by, not initiating a discussion, not taking a magazine. WALKING BY THEM. Jehovah scanning the hearts of those who walk by the table? Cause God needs their stupid table? Jesus Lord, That comment is insane. I bet the angels are happy not to have to work so much to protect them from the rabid dogs they encounter in the yards that say "dangerous dog, do not trespass" while they are trespassing.

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Cart "Witnessing"

by Funchback in

besides being a waste of time for those doing it, and being an easy way for the society to inflate its reports of time spent in the ministry, cart witnessing is also taking up space.

i live in a hot city in brazil.

today, the jws decided to set up their cart in the shady spot of the bus stop, where people going to work have to wait for the bus.. ugh!.

JWdaughter

"Irritating people in the neighborhood unnecessarily"? Because their regular irritation factor is more necessary? Huh?

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Terrorist attack in Turkey leaves 28 dead

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36658187.

JWdaughter

Finkelstein, with all due respect, I dont want a "strong message made", I want to kick their butts off the planet. But that's just me. You are a nicer person than I am.

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How do you deal with depression?

by BlackWolf in

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i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.

ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.

my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?

JWdaughter

If you have anorexia and they are refusing medical treatment, that is abuse. Anorexia is a serious disorder and needs proper treatment, both physical and emotional.

PLEASE see your own doctor. If they are a pediatrician, tell them what is going on, briefly and succinctly. They HAVE to report it even if you aren't saying your parents are evil brainwashed idiots. (oops, sorry). Your parents can be hateful and vindictive, or they could have the sense knocked into them. If vindictiveness is the ruling thing, then you need to run to child protective services. If they are going to put you out, get it done NOW, because the state will at least try to HELP YOU FOR REAL. Schools, local youth centers-a lot of places will help kids who need it, especially when you are a good kid, just trying to survive, not running away and committing crimes. ASK for help in the simple ways, first. Give your parents a chance to get educated on the harm they are doing.

If, when you are 18-if they do kick you out, you will have some friends here and elsewhere and hopefully will have developed some resources. You need to start looking after your future NOW, your parents sure the hell don't seem to be.

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Terrorist attack in Turkey leaves 28 dead

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36658187.

JWdaughter

I have been in that airport so many times. . . I saw a picture and it was a public area that looks familiar-the entire airport had a cohesive feeling, so it could have been any main thoroughfare of the airport(or maybe any airport), but knowing I have been there hits me hard. We made friends with our porter (helped me through the terminals when I was wheelchair bound) and he works there everyday. I know so many people who travel through there frequently. They hit Karachi last year and just the cargo area was scary enough, but this place was a little too up close and personal.

I hope they get everyone involved and responsible, but I don't know how they work over there. The airport was seemingly well run from my experience. I'm surprised this happened there-as stated, they have armed guards stationed regularly. That kind of made me feel more secure-even in Egypt before the revolution. Now, I don't know. I lived in a gated, guarded community in Qatar and they let me in the compound there a few times when I no longer lived there just because I was white and looked like I belonged. I didn't have a car with the sticker or any authorization at all.

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Today's Text - Remember & Help Full-Time Servants!

by Divergent in

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tuesday, june 28. we continually remember your faithful work, your loving labor.—1 thess.

1:3.. full-time servants have significant responsibilities in the most important work the world has ever known.

(matt.

JWdaughter

Wait, I thought all their donations to the WTBTS supported the missionary work. I guess when missionaries can't fulfill their duty as children of elderly parents, then the rest of the congregation is supposed to chip in-with an encouraging note. . . ? I'm confused. What the hell do they want? Feed the parents and sent a snoopy note card to the missionary?

Taking care of your own is first duty in every religion I know of. Christianty teaches it, Islam teaches it. First charity is in the home and the most blessings are from caring for your own family properly. Duh. How much more blessed will those serving where the need is great be when they are living in a expat enclave in the Philipines or Mexico while their 90 year old parents are alone in a nursing home?

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

JWdaughter

I believe they use outside law firms.

They use outside consultants.(Remember ARC?)
They will use outside contractors. (Fancy new HQ buildings/sites)
They are outsourcing the printing of the publications now in some country(ies?)
There cannot be enough JW lawyers to keep up with all the lawsuits that the WT faces, especially nowadays.These are specialized and critically important. They can't have half assed screw ups. While I am sure that they have a few very competent experienced lawyers, with thousands of congregations, KH's, conferences all the time and 8 million minimally educated JWs, there can't be enough lawyers numerically to deal with it all.

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The 1975 Generation---are they still around?

by minimus in

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i was raised as a jw and 1975 expectations were pretty intense.

as i recall, most people did not leave after the failed expectations but many s l o w e d down.

now, i think most of the 1975 witnesses are gone or barely in.. is the older generation still around in the kingdom halls or are they much gone?.

JWdaughter

I was 9 in 1975. I remember it well and I remember thinking that something huge was supposed to happen in 1975 (and then, maybe a little later, dates might be off). Well, I was a kid. I only heard what I heard at the meetings. My mom claims to this day that she didn't "believe" 1975 was it. I do know that she got my dad to go to meetings for a short while, but he flat out stopped very very soon. Anyway, all my expectations and then disappointment regarding 1975 were purely WT/KH/JW induced. I was a little kid. I don't claim to know all the excitement, but I do know that I had a total persecution complex. I was ready for it, baby! I read up on holocaust accounts and accounts of those escaping from brutal regimes. This was more when I was about ages 9-11 and it REALLLY had to be soon (remember the Eve theory?). I had a bunker attitude back then, honestly. I saw signs up about trespassers being prosecuted (persecuted in my doofy kid head) and wondered why they would do that just because you walked in someones yard. I went out in FS a lot and there were a LOT of JWs in my area, even then. I thought the signs were to keep JWs away. Anyway. My 9 year old brain was not doing independent math. I was buying what they were selling.

My mom is a JW and an aunt recently came back (about the 3rd or 4th time with drugs and alcohol featuring greatly in the in-between times) and is pioneering along with her very compliant husband (that she dragged into the mess.) All the cousins (except the one that murdered her cheating JW husband and his JW mistress in her bed) are out. My uncle is dead, all his kids and 3 ex wives (all JWs while married to him and divorcing him) are out. There were dozens of more distant cousins, but all are out now or dead(murdered!). Oh wait. The one that accidentally killed his baby brother on a hunting trip is still in. Forgot him. I have a lot of whacky and nutty relatives on my mom's side. That the freakiest seem to be JWs might just be because they are, but that leaves a lot of nuts in the rest of the bowl.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

JWdaughter

From Wiki "The San Diego Reader is the largest alternative press paper in the county of San Diego, distributed free in stands and private businesses throughout the county, funded by advertisements. Averaging 90,000 copies per issue, it reportedly has the largest circulation of any alternative weekly publication in the nation.[2] It frequently presents an opposing viewpoint to the San Diego Union Tribune, the primary printed newspaper in the city."

When I've lived in large cities, the alternative newspapers were often the only ones pursuing news like this. In Tacoma, WA, there was the Tacoma Dome Parking Scandal-It was first reported by the alternative newspaper. Sure, there are a lot of, lets say "quirky" or kind of nasty, even, ads on the back page and some in the middle, but they are made for local news stories that are often ignored, local arts and performances, unbiased (usually) reviews of plays or restaurants. All the new, hip bars are advertized, as well as festivals, fairs, etc.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

JWdaughter

Forget tally marks, just keep a running total: $4,000, $8000, $12,000, $16,000, $20,000. . . .That will make her curious.

If we were to ask: "What would be worth a daily $4,000 fine to you in order to not disclose something to a court? Is there anything in your life or our family life that a legitimate court order could demand you to disclose in the interest of justice that you would pay $4,000 a day to keep it private?"

This is the same organization that announces the decisions that they make about private matters when they mark, reprove or dis-fellowship members.