Yeah, they only read(past tense) the usually out of context scriptures if someone brought it forward in an answer. I wish they would skip the entire charade, but I'm not a factor in decision process. I love hearing that the congregations are defying the direction from bethel, though!!!Rebellion!!!!
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WT Mtg "read scriptures" are only to be read by a 1 brother???
by Olivia Wilde inwe had co visit recently & it appears that the co told the elders of the congregation that the scriptures indicated on the wt to be "read" on the watchtower study are only to be read by 1 brother in the entire study.... the elder conducting the watchtower announced that at the wt mtg... i was like what???
only men?....
has anyone else had this occur in their congregation?
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The Irony of JW's on Halloween
by Simon inisn't it ironic - the one day of the year you can pretty much guarantee that most people are not only home but anticipating people people calling at their door ... and jehovah's witnesses don't go out that day.. heck, if the householder isn't receptive they even have the get-out option of claiming it was a joke and they dressed up as jehovah's witnesses for halloween!
:d. of course we know the aim of the ministry for most is to avoid talking to people.
that's why they do it during the day midweek or on sat morning or sun afternoon when people are most likely out..
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My JW self did not hate Halloween. Or feel ripped off. We always had a skate party and mom's gave treats. Most Sun nights we went skating, so not deprived of fun. I felt gypped about family dinners on thanksgiving and Christmas. My mom would make turkey later. We might go for dessert, but it was a denial of extended family time and I loved seeing everyone together. By dessert they start heading off on dates, movies or sleep. Not the same. Miss the lively time before meal. Before the dinner drugging effect. -
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What history have you seen in the makeing???
by karter ini saw:.
neil armstrong say those famous words...this is one small step for a man........... muhammad ali win and loose the world title 3 times.. the 1st women prime minster of the uk..
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JWdaughter
VI had more than one Egyptian student tell me that there would be a revolution, within a few weeks of revolution. Ordinary Egyptians were beyond what they could bear. Unfortunately, they have Mubarak 2. I was there before the revolution and the summer after.
I've been in Makkah. Walked to the cave, prayed near the Kabbah. No drama, but many here have never been there. Or Pakistan. I taught Emirs daughter. I taught prime minister's daughter. Been in his home.
I remember where I was when Michael Jackson and Elvis died. I remember the planes hitting the towers. I paid 4.95 an hour for dial up internet service.
Mt. Helens.
Family trapped all over the world when the volcano in Iceland went off. Husband stuck in Hungary, son in Arabia.
I participated in Hands across America.
New year's in Times square.
Saw King Tut exhibit in 1970-something, then saw him at home in egypt, decades later.
Watched Challenger blow up. First and last event of that type I watched live on tv on purpose. I avoid live tv but still saw the second tower hit and fall. I couldn't not watch😢
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I could sue the WTBTS
by shattered_origins inever since my sister gave me an " awakening," i have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion i was born into.
i am especially outraged at the article i read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php).
i myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/ministerial servant in a neighboring congregation.
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JWdaughter
You may not have a case, but others may because of you. If you can find others who told elders before he abused you, you might have a case. As we know now, likely not. If he has moved, you may want to inform his current local justice authorities and elder body of his history. As a matter of conscience and as a concerned citizen. They can't play clueless ever again -
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Headline: "Islamic Invasion: Europe now scrambles for guns." How true is this?
by cappytan ina year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.
world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.
so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?
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Loveunihateexams,
I think that is an interesting question. Lots of Muslims have successfully integrated in the US, and as in most immigrant groups, there are some older language holdouts, but most are successfully starting busing, crazy to get their kids high degrees and work their butts off to do it. I know businessmen, doctors, engineers, entrepreneurs, teachers, etc.
In Muslim countries, English is defector business language, which is convenient for most westerners, but when westerners are expected to follow cultural norms (to a lesser degree) and are punished according to their laws, the world has a collective panic attack. Yet we all get in a huff if ladies don't cast off all modesty upon arrival. I worked and lived in several predominantly Muslim nations. Not even in Saudi is a western or non Muslim woman expected to cover her hair, although she is supposed to cover her limbs. In Pakistan, many don't cover. In Egypt, there is a total range of degrees of covering. In Qatar, also. No one told me to go back home. Ever. My language issues were accommodated as well as possible(usually impressively) I did go to Makkah. I did not wear an abaya or black. I was modest, but I'm not Arabic, and my cultural version of modesty didn't look like theirs, except for one day after I bought an abaya. It still was not black, but fyi, lots of abayas are not.
Many Muslim women in the US are modest but if they did not cover their hair, you'd think nothing of it. Some still wear abayas. Many are indistinguishable. We are much better integrated than many will acknowledge. That's a shame.
There is a learning curve for any immigrant or visiting group. Hello, Americans going to Europe have some real adjustments to make. Especially older ones who are more set in their ways. My mom is a real "ugly American" even out of her neighborhood. I shudder to think what she did in Italy, Greece and Turkey.
Your doctor, lawyer or insurance agent or IT manager at work may be able to tell you about integrating and the challenges they faced.
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Simple, basic manners would be a good start
by stillin inthe witnesses are really challenged socially.
in their own little world, they seem oblivious to the niceties of saying thank you or that they are sorry for some minor wrong.
these things help life go more smoothly in the real world, like a social lubricant.. i'm simply appalled at the fact that an elder's son, who was married more than a year ago, has never sent out thank you notes for all of the gifts that the congregation gave him for his wedding.
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JWdaughter
In any kind of sales if you are leaving promotional material you should tip extra! JWs started out as unapologetic sales people. They need to use common sense. My mom has never left tracts or magazine's, thank god. I know many who do, though. -
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Breaking Heart Needs Help
by thankyou inwas happily married many yrs unconditional love till wife went heaven yr n half ago.
3 mos ago sun morn.
when i once asked her if she been abused, cause seems like it, she didn't ans just hung her head.
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It was good of you to try and help her. Some are not ready to receive it. You still helped because she knows there is a person in the world who cares about her. That will always stick. Take care of yourself! -
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CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...
by JW_Rogue inat the latest co visit something very strange happened.
during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.
upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.
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JWdaughter
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Aus Bethel reducing numbers dramatically.
by joey jojo insorry if this is old news but just heard that there will only be about 75 people left at sydney bethel after layoffs.
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Something interesting!
by John Aquila ini was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.
we both served as elders for years.
he is in his late 70s.
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JWdaughter
Back in the olden days-early 1980s, when I left, there were a lot of ex JW groups. Yahoo meets had nothing on yellow pages, little nickel want ads and newspaper blurbs about JWs. I'm not surprised that a more mature generation has recognized and joined together. I would suggest that there might well be a little more dissent than acknowledged, but these folks are meeting with carefully gathered, like-minded friends. They don't want to undermine their whole life, but they can't buy into all the nonsense. Good for them. I'm almost 50. In 10 years, I hope I see a very different org. Those 80 year olds have to see whatsoever is going on now, knowing they will not see a significant downfall of corrupt leadership. :(