Posts by JWdaughter

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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?

by Listener in

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john cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".

i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.

he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.

JWdaughter

I haven't read enough of Cedars to have gotten any of his personal bias in that way before now. Not even to know he was atheist.

I have a different perspective. I know atheists and Christians and non-religionists (who might still believe in God) who can respectfully discuss ideas with others. I know others that don't seem to be able to without belittling those who don't think as they do. That is a sad thing indeed, but MOST people can just have the conversation without denigrating others.

I have been put down by people of all kinds of religions and belief systems-but they don't define their belief system because they are not the rule, they are usually the exception. Thank God. (No pun intended)

Its funny because the atheist/christian/jw who likes to throw around their belitting comments are usually getting them from the same sources when they think they are educating me with their cuts and pastes. That is always amusing!

There are others who are concerned (all those groups) and approach me with that kind of attitude. I can't take offence at a caring attitude, even when it is sometimes a bit condescending

Then there are people who just treat me like a normal human being. Refreshing

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A Seal Ring bearing King Hezekiah's found in Jerusalem excavation, with ankh symbol and winged sun

by fulltimestudent in

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from a story in the jewish press:.

quote: "the city of david excavations of the jerusalem hebrew university on mount ophel, at the foot of the southern wall of the temple mount compound, have yielded a sensational discovery: a seal (bulla) with the name of king hezekiah (727-698 bce).".

"king hezekiahs bulla was discovered in a garbage heap that was dumped during or shortly after hezekiahs time, from a royal building that was used to store food.

JWdaughter

Wow, all that destroying of pagan monuments. . .he'd be a terrorist in 2015.

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The Elders are Coming Help!

by LaurenM in

so the elders keep bugging me and pestering me about having a meeting with them to "introduce me to my new congregation" for some reason (do any ex elders know what that even means??).

i keep postponing and making excuses and they are getting more and more aggressive.

i finally agreed for them to come over today, but really don't want to..should i hide from them again?

JWdaughter

Hey! I need to cancel

Why?

I realized that life is too short to hang around negative influences.

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Is the elevated tone of the G.B disappearing..

by The Rebel in

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and with it the language in the w.t loosing its authority?.

i ask the question because, with the g.b now appearing before members on their social media, and reluctantly on royal commissions my opinion is :-.

a) the g.b can no longer hide like wells's invisible man.

JWdaughter

They are not awe inspiring men among men. They only notable thing is how average to odd that they are considering their roles.

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Still feel weird about things....

by FeelingFree in

so i'm loving the fact that my little one gets to be a "normal" child and take part in everything at school.

however i still have that stupid niggling in the back of my head that she shouldn't be doing it and it's wrong etc.

at the moment she is rehearsing for the nativity play and keeps singing the songs at home (she is going to be an angel!

JWdaughter

Hey, my mom, who is a JW, went to my son's performance in the Messiah a few Christmases ago. My JW mom did. I think it is the most holiday'd thing she has EVER done, but she did it for her grandkid who was singing a solo in a professional choir (yes, I am bragging about it years later, ok? I acknowledge it!) . My point? It is to say that your kid's generation may eventually get your parents to do things that they would NEVER do for you. They may be able to do things for them that they would never allow you to do. It might not really change their world, but you never know. My mom saw one beautiful Christmas concert one time in her life and I know she was moved by it, in spite of her best efforts.

I did not have a single twinge that night, btw. My son invited her and she chose to join us.

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

JWdaughter

If there is ever a time in your life where it is normal that your brain doesn't work right -this would be it. There is a reason that people get bereavement leave. Its not just to make arrangements. Take the time and take care of yourself and do something that is meaningful for you or just sleep and eat. Whatever helps you.

I have been here many years and seen a lot of dear people go through stuff like this, but the thought of you keeps nudging at me. I'm not sure why. My brother shunned me years ago. I really miss having him. I wish I could give you a hug-and that might be entirely a selfish wish cause I need one!

Take care of yourself, Rich.

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Australian Royal Commission Findings released

by Mephis in

will just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.

in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.

available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.

JWdaughter

" Dr. Applewhite's report is therefore rejected. "

Angus is my hero. He has been for months and he still remains so!

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Back ground insight into the RC

by umbertoecho in

this is not an attack upon the rc.

it is an example of the sheer volume of work they are dealing with and the scope of events they have dealt with.. i went to the rc support place here in wa.

it seemed that many people (staff) were dropping out from this place due to illness, holiday's ..family ....and so on.

JWdaughter

I envy your stamina in this at all. You rock. I don't mind honest errors that are corrected. We were part of a religion that has had plenty of folks let them know they got some really wrong things happening and they keep going on with no apologies. had the WT been as responsive, they would not have any lawsuits! Or would have learned from the first ones, even if they won it. They know it is wrong. Being able to make legal arguments and finding loopholes does NOT make what they are doing right.

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Elder's letter requesting details of solicitors, barristers and accountants

by jwfacts in

there was a letter sent to elders in australia on 18th november 2015 asking for details of publishers that are solicitors, barristers and accountants.

what would be their motive for these details?

the rest of the letter outlines 8 specific pieces of information to compile and send to bethel's legal department, and reiterates to collect the information only be "as you understand, without consulting the publisher.

JWdaughter

Well, with the ARC bringing legal and financial obligations aplenty, this is not a surprise. They are likely working out how to get out all money that is liquid and how to liquidate all the rest to send it to some country where there are not likely to be anyone suing for abuse issues. Like the Congo or something.

In the states compiling databases of individuals using public info is perfectly fine. That's how you get on mailing lists I don't see the issue with that, other than you know those poor guys having been vetted already by the local monkey factory will have to do some talking to get out of obligatory service to the borg.

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I think I was off the day they taught ...

by Simon in

does anyone else have those things that everyone else seems to know ... except you?

it's like you were off the day it was taught in school and you don't know that you don't know about it.

but everyone else does.. i have a couple .... first, days of the month.

JWdaughter

The retro encabulator thing was hysterical. When I first started editing for engineers, it felt similar. Then I realized that this was the real thing-nonsensical as the real stuff sounded at first. Now I know enough to know it IS nonsensical. Just enough. Barely. :)