my last post over a month ago was going to be the last considering i wanted to get away from all things jw but this place is much harder to ignore than previously thought.
life has taken some very interesting turns since late last year.
I'm so happy for all your good news, new friends, new challenges, new job and skills and mostly your upcoming BABIES. What a lot of blessing! Good for you and your wife. I hope eventually good for the JW family that is brave enough to reach out to you like family rather than cult enforcers:) THAT is really good news, by the way and I hope that all comes to good things.
I appreciate the wonderful start to the week that you just provided to all of us.
I'm a twin and a parent. I've heard stories, I've seen pictures. Sleep now while the sleeping is good.
i'd like to relate an experience i had yesterday with a couple of jw's "working" with a cart yesterday.. been coming to this site for many years and these days i don't feel i've got much to contribute ,but i was out yesterday doing some voluntary work for a friend who has gone on an overseas trip .travelling around my local seaside area doing the job at hand ,i came across a couple of jw's sitting in a shelter overlooking the beach and had their trolley propped against a large public rubbish bin ,it was actually hard to see ithe trolley from most angles - whatever happened to lifting the basket to show the light stuff ...oh well .the large carpark was pretty empty except for us ,we've had pretty wet weather here lately ,bad storms and here they were set up for a days witnessing rugged up with wind and spitting rain ,i sort of thought " well that's dedication " ....that was my first thought then i pulled myself together and then thought "if i wanted to get some time in and not have to work at it too hard this maybe the place to go if i was a jw still".. well i finished my pickup and looked over at the two and realised i'd read other's experiences about approaching the cart people and wondered if talking to them would be of any benefit as i had witnessed this area for many years and my stance against the wts for hiding molestation of children is well known ,i thought, and they avoid me like the plague.. they were'nt familiar to me so i went up to them and introduced myself and quickly let them know who i was and what i am doing now as regards jw's.
they were a married couple middle aged been in for a long time and could relate to changes in the org very well to pre 1975 when i had first contact.
they pretty much suggested i was blinded to the truth ,when challenged on the royal commission into sex abuse they pointed to a case where they believed a victim they supposedly knew of in the jws was a liar ,so that's their case for the org -unbelievable.
Good for you. I've had two opportunities lately and one I kind of froze on and the next confirmed that I am getting pretty ambivalent about the entire thing. I think its a good sign, but I still regret that I didn't say something. Especially because I had a plan!!
NOTHING for years, and twice in two weeks I get JWs at the door. I didn't feel like talking to them and said I had plenty of bibles and read them. I had a plan, but I was getting ready to leave the house and didn't want to get into it. At this rate someone will be here next week if I decide to do the confrontation thing.
It was a father and daughter. NO bible. They both had ipads and notepads (like the leather bound kind). So weird.
anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?.
my wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while i babysat.
i latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.. i also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.. i just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.
Ask your wife to refrain from volunteering for daylong projects as you enjoy your time together as a family. I'm sure that you can find a way to agree on appropriate time schemes. This really isn't about the elders, its between the two of you and just talk to HER. You can point out to her what you pointed out to us. Maybe she can make a tray of sandwiches or drop off some drinks for the elders to sit under their umbrellas and sip while others are working. It doesn't take a whole day commitment in any case. Two hours or other things are fair enough.
If it were just one case that will be resolved in April, it wouldn't be worthy of the WT hiding it. It is ALL the cases, it is the organizational ethos that created this "protect the pedophile" atmosphere. These are the "Guardians of Doctrine" who come up with the crap.
not too long ago, i posted a topic where i pointed out that there are about 1 million xjws alive right now.
that number only represented the disfellowshipped ones... didn't account for those who had become publishers and left or anyone else who got hurt by that group by proxy.
I think most people who were in really didn't give a crap, so when they leave it's a non event or they just change churches like normal people. The really didn't buy in. They played the game, they didn't live it.
US? We were schmucks and/or took it all way too seriously. We bought into it or we were harmed in the course of being involved or in becoming uninvolved. We are literally still recovering from the experience or in the middle of it or its just an indelible stain on our life and thinking.
court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.
keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.
Yeah, well every JW in the world will tell you that "you hardly need ANY blood in your body to survive, its only the medical cabal that has caused you to believe that you need blood if you lose it. The Red Cross is behind all this. . . and did you hear about the JW lady who only had two ounces of blood left in her body and survived?Blood transfusions are just a big conspiracy and JWs don't really die from a lack of blood, they die from blood transfusions! "
a bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?
wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?
) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.
What a blessing you had in your great grandmother. People like that one lady can only make you appreciate your loving and sane grandmother all the more. My dad was my bit of sanity. I'm glad you had one, also!
Whatever we think about this, in the end, the WT will be made to pay. It may not be the justice system-heavenly or earthly, but humanity has had enough of this in even the most backward places. The times are a changing and they can't hide anymore and that is worth plenty, in my book. If the Supremes don't get the org and God doesn't, Karma will. Things will change because they have to-and they WT/CCJW will suffer for their actions and JWs will respond more human like as time goes on because the upcoming "generation" is just plain not as indoctrinated to think they have the "only true religion" anymore. JWs are playing the church game like everyone else and they are less likely to be "true believers". The WT/CCJW has jumped the shark.
