Stuckinarut2- the Privacy Act helps with straightforward issues. For instance, if something inaccurate and defamatory is preventing a person from getting a job. When it comes to the Watchtower, it is a lot more difficult to prove a statement is wrong, or that it is affecting your life. I was advised that if I disagreed with any information they held about me, and it was having a negative affect on my life, the Privacy commissioner could assist in demanding the Watchtower destroy it. I did not pursue it, as most of the information was correct, and having a few lines destroyed would not have made any difference.
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Do the WTS actually destroy all of your records if requested?
by Thoughtless inhello, sorry for the multiple posts, but this has also been a question of mine to ask.. .
does the wts actually destroy your files if you request them to after you get df'd?
i honestly do not believe so, yet i feel as if you cannot call them on their bs if you do.
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Do the WTS actually destroy all of your records if requested?
by Thoughtless inhello, sorry for the multiple posts, but this has also been a question of mine to ask.. .
does the wts actually destroy your files if you request them to after you get df'd?
i honestly do not believe so, yet i feel as if you cannot call them on their bs if you do.
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No. In Australia, the Privacy Act 1988 regulates that they must destroy anything that is inaccurate about you, but that is all.
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Does the GB claim the sole power of scriptural interpretation?
by DATA-DOG inwhat are the best quotes, old and new about this mystical power?
i just had a " come to jesus " talk with my wife.
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"However, we cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of “the faithful and discreet slave,” we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it." Examining the Scriptures Daily 2012 Mar 4
"Let us face the fact that no matter how much Bible reading we have done, we would never have learned the truth on our own. We would not have discovered the truth regarding Jehovah, his purposes and attributes, the meaning and importance of his name, the Kingdom, Jesus' ransom, the difference between God's organization and Satan's, nor why God has permitted wickedness." Watchtower 1990 Dec 1 p.19
"Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible cannot be properly understood without Jehovah's visible organization in mind." Watchtower 1967 Oct 1 p.587
"We must serve Jehovah in truth, as revealed in his Word and made clear in the publications of "the faithful and discreet slave." Watchtower 1996 May 15 p.18
"Thus, the one who doubts to the point of becoming an apostate sets himself up as a judge. He thinks he knows better than his fellow Christians, better also than the 'faithful and discreet slave,' through whom he has learned the best part, if not all that he knows about Jehovah God and his purposes."Watchtower 1980 Aug 1 p.19
"The abundance of spiritual food and the amazing details of Jehovah's purposes that have been revealed to Jehovah's anointed witnesses are clear evidence that they are the ones mentioned by Jesus when he foretold a "faithful and discreet slave" class" Watchtower 1964 Jun 15 p.365
When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood. (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all." Watchtower 2010 Jul 15 pp.22,23
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Has anyone ever saved another persons life?
by LogCon ini don't mean you advised them and they changed their lives around, kind of saving a life.. i mean right before your eyes, right now, you had to do something to save a person or they would be dead.. how did it make you feel?
did it have any affect on you?.
forty years ago i was working on a construction site and a back-hoe had loosened a large boulder.
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I lent my windsurfer to an elder in the 1990's, I must have been about 21. I was watching as he had an epileptic fit and fell off the board, sinking to the bottom of the lake where we were. Luckily he was only a few meters from shore at the time and the water was only about 1 meter deep. I ran in and pulled him out, surprised at how heavy he was, he was like a stone on the bottom. It really shook me up, as the lake is very deep and if it had happened when he was further out I would never have been able to reach him.
It affected our friendship, as he felt very embarrassed about it and never the same around me. He also never thanked me, but a few weeks later he called me asked that I not judge him, as I must think that if the same thing happened when he is driving he could kill someone. I had not even thought about that before he brought it up.
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Biblical verses my JW mom gave me for shunning
by bsand20 injohn 2:9-11-anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[a] is still in the darkness.
10 anyone who loves their brother and sister[b] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
11 but anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness.
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Talk about a twisting of Scripture.
Luke 15:1-7- Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
Here it shows that Jesus ate with sinners, exactly the opposite point you mum is making. Although it goes on to say they rejoice when a sinner returns does not change the fact that the Scripture shows eatting with sinners is ok.
In 1 Cor in says not to eat with a brother or sister that is engaging in some specific practices. I am not sure if you are engaging in whatever you were disfellowshipped for, but if you no longer claim to be a practicing JW then the Scripture does not apply.
There is a detailed article on why disfellowshipping is wrong at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php
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Expect more Crazy as JW.ORG trims the fat and fills the coffers.
by donuthole inwhen rutherford assumed the presidency of the watchtower society he instituted series of sweeping changes to the teachings and practices of the bible students.
some of these changes were at complete odds with what had been taught previously.
a key example was the elevation of the watchtower society as "god's visible organization on earth".
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Donuthole, you make a great point that I have not thought of before. These days, financial viability is more important than growth. The doctrine do not lend themselves to a long term outlook. Major changes are required that would lead to many people leaving. However, that is what the religion needs. Provided they can keep onto the assets, they can get more financial growth through investments than they can from the growth coming in from the poor and third world countries.
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How old were you when you left the Watchtower - SURVEY
by usualusername ini believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .
i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .
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2 - 36. Started having serious doubts at 25 and hung around for way too long.
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I was "totally" stopped in my tracks by an "atheist" comment.
by booker-t ini must admit i can at times be a little "egotistical" when it comes to knowledge and the bible.
i have studied the bible for so long and have always had a passion for the bible as a jw and as an ex-jw.
i guess that is all i have left when it comes to religion and as humans we do tend to stroke our egos.
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In the story of Noah God murdered millions of babies and billions of animals as well. He could have had evil humans die in their sleep without a flood at all, and all that pointless loss of life. Then afterwards God regretted it, yet God is supposed to be all knowing and wise and knows the future, so surely he would have known he would feel regret and not do it in the first place. Of course it is just a story, and that is before we even start with the fact of the flood being a scientific impossibility.
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Would blood mgmt improvements have been made without firm stand of JW's
by berrygerry inhttp://o.canada.com/news/national/blood-transfusions.
thoughts?.
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Nugget - Blood is expensive so economics would have forced change with or without witnesses.
Good point. On the flip side, pharmaceutical companies want a product they can patent, so they have a product they can sell.
Smiddy - I often wonder if any of these parents have since learned TTATT , or even if they have not learned TTATT , but have drifted away , left the religion , and regretted /felt remorse/or even guilty over their decision to agree with , and support the no blood policy of jehovahs witnesses , which has led to the death of their child.
I received an email from a mother whose son died in her arms after a car crash. She refused him a blood transfusion. Watching him die led her to realising it is not the truth. It was a devastating story and I am sure happens regularly.
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Am I a judgmental bastard or just one of the last sane persons on this planet?
by skeeter1 inso, i happened to see a young lady.
she's about 13 or 14, can't be more than 16 years old.
fresh faced, rosy cheeks, and a little pudgy.
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Those tatts on the old people look amazing. I always thought it would look tragic but instead it is a great reminder to young people that they too are tough, independant and cool.