Posts by jwfacts

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Theocratic Warfare
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
no doubt we noticed the royal commission ask vin toole (and i think terry o'brien) about the expression "theocratic warfare"?.

they were asked to explain it and what is meant to witnesses.. vin outrightly lied when he said he "had never heard of that expression!".

i remember him using that term in conversations and talks many times!!
jwfacts

I am going to post a new page of quotes regarding this tonight. The statement that Theocratic Warfare includes lying appeared in the 1950's, and not since. However, the term theocratic warfare continued to be used in the 1980's, so Vin Toole has read it since he was baptised. The term more common now is "spiritual warfare." The articles now are more cautious not to suggest perjury or lying, but still continue to say a JW should misdirect people or withhold information for the benefit of the organisation.
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Is Geoffrey W. Jackson a "ringer"? Was he sent coached how to testify? Is this a setup? I think so.
by Wasanelder Once in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
if you have heard g. jackson speak you can tell that he is smooth.

he is a good speaker with a commanding voice.

i think the gb knew this was going to happen and prepped him to testify.
jwfacts

Geoff is a great and Charismatic speaker but he is not going to want to take the stand. Vin Toole is also a great charismatic speaker, and look how dejected he appeared. Whilst Geoff will do a better job, he still has nothing to gain by getting on the stand.
Having Geoff testify will be like pulling back the curtain in Wizard of Oz. The sheep are in awe of the GB and their direct connection to God in making decisions. McClellan will tear that apart and show Watchtower is made up of committees with majority votes. Geoff's appearance won't help build anyone's faith, but it will remove the mystic for some Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

What bullshit. O'Brien is said they don't lose association if they become inactive. It may not be as bad as disassociation, but they will still be treated as bad association.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

Wow, O'Brien looks to have personally committed perjury, and McClellan is not impressed. It is getting so uncomfortable.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

The Watchtower is showing how little they care about the RC and its suggestions, unlike other churches that have been actively working with them. I think after this they may finally be scared into action.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

McClellan must be finding it hard listening to the way O'Brien (and JWs in general) have just made up doctrine to be convenient, rather than based it on any evidence, and then say they must follow that as from God.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

Terry O'Brien and his wife were in the same pioneer school as me back in about 1988. I was also in bethel when he first arrived in the early 1990's. He is a nice guy, though very shy and quiet, so I was surprised that he became the branch coordinator.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

Toole is feigning ignorance of the requirement to report criminal knowledge, and that mandatory reporting overrode it. I do not believe that he was so ignorant, as mandatory reporting should be seen to be an extension and not a watering down of legislation.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

"As a lawyer ... " Stewart is not letting Toole get away with the waffling, evasion and preaching that he allowed from Spinks.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
jwfacts

The other day there was a figure of about 285 cases in 10 years, or 2 a month. Vin now says they receive 3 or 4 a month. The numbers they have on file far down play the number of child abuse cases that are verbally reported and do not go through the Judicial process, not to mention those that don't get reported.