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  Where Can One Get Answers To Questions From JWs?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there's also a fellow who calls himself the "watchman," but he seems as critical as many of the so-called "apostates.

  " is there a place where one can ask questions from knowledgeable believers or "a" believer?

  i really don't want to take the bible lessons.

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  jwfacts

  I won by a knockout in the third round.
  

  Are you sure? I guess they are saying the same. For a certainty, your knockout didn't knock them all the way into the JW religion, and probably didn't even get them out of their own delusion.
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  Love for the Hate

  by IronSharpensIron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to share a perspective related to my experience with leaving the jw.

  at this point, i have been df'd since i was 18. i'm 25, happily married with 2 fantastic children.

  after being miserably at odds with my parents and extended family, i've come to some realizations as follows.. i struggled with the conditional nature of my parent's love- talking to me until it bothered their conscience, then cutting me off.

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  I support your sentiment here. I too have found that I feel better not treating my family as they treat me. I allow my son to Skype with his Grandmother, as I think it is important for him to know her. He knows she is not to discuss religion with him and I follow up the calls to know what was discussed.

  On another note, with your permission, I would like to add your comment to the experiences section of jwfacts.com as it perfectly describes the dynamics of shunning and JW families.
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  I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .

  talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.

  i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.

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  She has a good list. Ask her why none of the information matters to her.
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  Spain 2016-10-03 BOE Re: Minors

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  october 3, 2016 to the bodies of elders re: minors.

  3 de octubre de 2016 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: menores de edad.

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  Why not word it like this: "Being guided by the above recommendations willavoid unfounded accusations and will protect the reputation of our organization. our children."
  

  They want to protect the elders and protect the organisation. What they should be wanting to protect are the children, and Jehovah's name. A very revealing sentence.
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  Spain 2016-10-03 BOE Re: Minors

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  october 3, 2016 to the bodies of elders re: minors.

  3 de octubre de 2016 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: menores de edad.

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  This is somewhat contradictory. The letter states that elders don't have habitual contact with children, so don't need to obtain certification, then goes on to admit that elders may have habitual contact with children, but they still won't get the certification. It seems to be trying to circumvent the new law, and is reminiscent of how they tried to avoid the Working With Children legislation in Australia. I would be interested in seeing what the body that maintains the Central Register in Spain thinks about this guidance.
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  How Dangerous are Blood Transfusions really?

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this is a report about the successful implementation of the patientbloodmanagent in germany and prof. zacharowski as well as the business trip of his life with shocking facts about transfusions in his bag.. http://screenart.tv/portfolio/gefaehrliche-bluttransfusionen.

  this year 2016 president obama and vice biden awarded german physicians prof. kai zacharowski with humanitarian award for patient safety.

  the patient safety movement foundation set the goal to massively reduce the number of preventable deaths of hospital patients worldwide by 2020.

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  No one questions that there is danger with blood transfusions. A Doctor's goal is to provide a transfusion when it is less dangerous than not having one. JW's have been sacrificial lambs, and for no justifiable reason.
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  Undeserved kindness

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

  really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

  so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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  Page 24 has 3 illustrations that are "Expressions of God’s undeserved kindness:" These seem really poorly chosen.

  1. "The privilege of hearing the good news." How is this a privilege? It should be the right of every human to hear the good news, since the response to the good news is how God choses whether or not to destroy you at Armageddon
  2. "The blessing of prayer." This shows a picture of an old lady praying by her dying husband. How is praying to God an underserved kindness if he does not answer, and does not save the husband's life?
  3. "Being helped at the right time." The gift did not come from God, it was the kindness of another human being.
     
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  Undeserved kindness

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

  really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

  so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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  jwfacts

  In typical fashion, they quote a scholar, with no reference provided for the quote.

  Regarding the word for “undeserved kindness,” which is translated “grace” in many Bible versions, one scholar wrote: “The whole basic idea of the word is that of a free and undeserved gift, of something given to a man unearned and unmerited.” Watchtower Ju;ly 2016 study edition page 22.

  This quote is from New Testament Words, by William Barclay. The quote in full is:

  “The whole basic idea of the word is that of a free and undeserved gift, of something given to a man unearned and unmerited, something which comes from God's grace and which could never have been achieved or attained or possessed by a man's own efforts." New Testament Words William Barclay 1964 page 63

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barclay_(theologian) states that:

  Barclay's personal views, expressed in his own A Spiritual Autobiography (1977) and Clive L. Rawlins' William Barclay: prophet of goodwill: the authorised biography (1998) included:

  • scepticism concerning the Trinity: for example "Nowhere does the New Testament identify Jesus with God."[3]

  • belief in universal salvation: in his autobiography he wrote, "I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end all men will be gathered into the love of God."[4]

  • pacifism: "war is mass murder".[5]

  • evolution: "We believe in evolution, the slow climb upwards of man from the level of the beasts. Jesus is the end and climax of the evolutionary process because in Him men met God. The danger of the Christian faith is that we set up Jesus as a kind of secondary God. The Bible never, as it were, makes a second God of Jesus. Rather, it stresses the utter dependence of Jesus on God."[6]

  It is interesting that they quote Barclay as the expert on the word charis, yet would regard his other views as heretical.

  The Greek word charis can be translated grace or kindness, but there is no justification for including the word "undeserved." Charis is 5485 in Strong's http://biblehub.com/greek/5485.htm which defines Charis as kindness or grace.

  Of the 7602 occurrences of "kindness" in the Watchtower Library 2003 CD, it is preceded by the word "undeserved" 2296 times; 30% of the time.

  This is demeaning and misses the point. When I give my child a birthday present, it is out of my love and kindness, not because he necessarily deserves or earned the gift. Yet I would never tell him that he did not deserve it, and it was only out of my underserved kindness that I gave it. Watchtower uses this Scripture in a manner that belittles humans, rather than the intention of glorifying God.
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  The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  jwfacts

  Wonderful article. Nicely shows Watchtower is similar to other organizations, rather than looking like a reporter trying to "persecute" them.
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  jwfacts

  The same happened in Hobart congregation in the 1980s. Br Peterson was giving the public talk and had a heart attack. He got taken to hospital and another elder took over using his notes.