I did an article on this is response to Geoff's evasion and lies.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/child-discipline-corporal-punishment.php
the wt book "family life" (1978) had something to say on this topic:.
*** fl chap.
10 pp.
I did an article on this is response to Geoff's evasion and lies.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/child-discipline-corporal-punishment.php
i came across this recent down to earth presentation given by paul grundy.
it's very long but provides a good overview of the jw religion and its dark side.
it was hosted by "sydney atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to jws.
Thanks alanv
i doubt people consider me an apostate but you never know.🤓.
I hope so, though I am sure they add numerous other insults and expletives as well.
i came across this recent down to earth presentation given by paul grundy.
it's very long but provides a good overview of the jw religion and its dark side.
it was hosted by "sydney atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to jws.
O Oh, poor form with the mike, better go back to the ministry school......lol
In fairness though, I guess it's been a while for him.
It certainly has been a while. When I gave talks, there were Microphone stands, and no Laptops and PowerPoint slides to manage. Half way through my notes disappeared off the slides, so it was all from memory from then on, which you can tell from the decline in fluency.
it seems that the other threads about trump's policies are veering off into endless ideological theories about how much better we are than islam.
does anyone think there is a chance that islam can be changed in the same manner that christianity has over the centuries?
with the inflow of ideas from western countries into the middle east, will people gradually want to move away from sharia law to something less patriarchal and cruel?
The Mosaic Law is racist, sexist and barbaric. The New Testament helps improve this, and modern Christianity has made further positive steps to turn their back on more of what is wrong in the Bible.
Judaism has come to the same place without the New Testament as a step along the way.
There is no reason Islam cannot also progress down a similar path. Whilst Islamic states have a long way to go, there are many Muslims that share similar ideals to Christians.
A number of the comments seem to be panicking about the immediate situation at hand, not the long term potential for change.
world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.
watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.
what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.
Kpop, your comment makes sense, and I discuss that very point at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php, where there are a number of other graphs.
The point of this particular chart is to show that Jehovah's Witnesses are not growing at a greater rate than the population. Although they claim 1.8% compared to 1.13% for the global population, this comes from just a handful of developing countries. In many countries the growth is less than the population in general, showing that they are contracting, once taking into account children being born into the religion.
i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.
are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.
world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.
watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.
what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.
Once natural population growth is factored in, it highlights even more distinctly how ineffective preaching is.
For instance, there has been discussion on the forum around why there is growth in some European countries, such as Germany. However, Germany only grew by 274 more than the population growth rate, after 29,326,324 hours of preaching, which means 107,157 hours of preaching were required per additional publisher.
A more meaningful figure may be the birth rate, which is currently 8.5 per 1000 people. The number of German JW babies would be about 1,393, whilst baptisms are 3,224. The difference of 1,831 needs to come from the territory, so the 29,326,324 preaching is 16,000 hours preaching per baptism from the field.
Please note, the figures are rough estimates. For instance, the birth rates really need to be from around 15 years ago, as that is the current batch of children being baptised. Also, the hours of studying with the children should be subtracted from the total hours of preaching when calculating the above figure. It is also possible that the JW birth rate differs from the general population.
world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.
watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.
what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.
The second graph seems to have disappeared, so here it is again.
world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.
watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.
what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.
Data used for Graphs - click link for the spreadsheet with the population percentages and other data in the graphs.