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  If Jesus had to choose his earthly organisation NOW, who would win?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that the society claims that jesus invisibly chose the bible students (forerunners of jw) in 1919 to be his organization here on earth.. yet, as we know, so much of what they then taught and did was wrong according to current teaching and practice.. the reply witnesses will give is something like "they were the most sincere seekers of truth blah blah...and jesus could see their potential".

  so, pretend for a moment that the current organization and the 1919 organization were both in concurrent existence at the time he invisibly came to choose.... which would he choose?

  the current or former?.

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  Trump. He has the same skill set as the GB.
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  Russian Ban exposed but not THE ARC...WHY?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just your thoughts....i've been all over this site, everyone says, that if jehovah was backing the org.

  then why so many things happen in the org.

  child abuse, shunning, and so on....but my question or thought is why is the banning of witnesses all over the media, but the arc isn't wasn't picked up in the media, like this (oh little leaks here and there, but nothing major) nothing like the nyt or any major media venue where the friends would see it and couldn't deny it, even if they wanted to....why does the media care more about banning witnesses than child abuse...i know even if the arc was exposed many of the friends would stay, but would be shamed, because they talked about other religions...or maybe jehovah is bringing the org.

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  Banning of religion is a sensitive topic for all religious people. JWs now, maybe them next. It is in their interests to protect freedom of religion and be outspoken against any violation of that right.
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  UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

  umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

  and i'm kind of disappointed..

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are a superstitious bunch, always looking for signs that the end is about to occur. With Trump as president and his sparring with Putin, they will be thinking King of the North and South. A war in Syria, persecution in Russia, an earthquake, famine in Somalia, and their indoctrination must be on high alert.

  You may think that the Australian Royal Commission would have an affect, but just a fraction of JWs even know about this. Yet they all can see the unrest in the world. The sad thing is the total ignorance, as the world is still the most peaceful it has ever been.

  What do people think the memorial attendance will be this year? It was 20,085,142 in 2016 and the growth over the last 2 years has been a miserable -0.4% and 1.1%.This year I expect the growth to be more than that, probably more than 2%.
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  You will be with me in Paradise

  by AmyWatson916 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm reading a book called, "what to do when they knock".

  it points out that on page 36 of the 2014 "what does the bible really teach?

  " book jesus promises the criminal, "you will be with me in paradise.

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  Watchtower teaches that paradise is earth, and the evil doer will have an earthly resurrection sometime in the future. Jesus will rule in heaven, so he will be "with" the man in spirit only, figuratively. Great how regularly Watchtower throws in the concept of a comment being figurative in order to change the meaning to fit their doctrine.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130301/you-will-be-with-me-in-paradise/ is their official explanation, and a great example of how they can twist words without any backing. The article basically dismisses the scripture by saying it does not suit their interpretation.
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  To those taking a stand and not attending the Memorial tonight

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i salute you.

  many of you, like me, are probably under enormous emotional pressure, whether from a lingering false sense of guilt from your indoctrination, whether from "invitations," and assumptions that you'll naturally be coming, or whether from outright emotional blackmail, even begging and pleading.

  i am thinking of you whoever you are, all of you, even though i don't know you in person.

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  Onager - If it was last night, Monday, then why the frick did I have a JW knock on my door at about 2pm with a flyer? Did they honestly expect me to get ready and go to an event that same evening?
  

  They don't expect you to attend. They are just marking you for destruction at Armageddon for not attending.
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  I'm 90% PIMO but events in Russia made me stop and think maybe Jehovah is real and helping

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm at the stage where i'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the j.w's are not the true religion, but sometimes i get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the russian court trial being one of them.. i mean, j.w's are understandably fixated with attending the memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on monday or tuesday, instead setting wednesday 12 april as the date?

  part of me believes the comments from pro-j.w's that jehovah moved events so they could attend the memorial.. it seems the j.w's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb australian royal commission team who did their homework.

  it surprises me the russians seemingly haven't done any homework..

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  JW's are banned in other countries, so why do you feel what is happening in Russia is of any relevance? It is superstitious thinking.
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  Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.

  so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?

  - what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?

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  Great work. Thanks for all your help.

  I doubt many people comprehend just how much work is involved in translating these articles, particularly with many older quotes not being in Spanish, or appearing in different editions from English.
  
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  Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

  is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

  they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

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  You group the Governing as if they are a single person. The sincerity varies amongst the different members,

  Ray Franz once sent me an email where he explained that some were sincere and some were in it for the power.
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  Aren't you a bit amazed that the WTS/JWS is still around ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know i am, to me its a bit of a peculiar anomaly that the wts is still around and functioning in reflection of its decades and now complete century that the wts has been bullshitting to people .

  organizations like the church of god have shrunk dramatically from its heyday of the 1980's, this too was another organization that spread and grew by publishing its own magazine proclaiming a armageddon soon doctrine and its main publication was called " the truth " .

  i'm guessing some of this has to do with the fact that people who get lured into this cult aren't aware of its past, its doctrines, the people who started it and so forth.

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  You could say that about any religion. Jesus indicated he would return 2000 years ago, and didn't, yet Christianity survives. Humans are emotionally unintelligent enough that religion, include Watchtower's peculiar version, will survive for the foreseeable future.
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  "Forced" study with an Elder - The first question i will pose, help appreciated.

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello folks.

  as some of you might know my dad couldnt keep quiet about my view of the world, so i have been "forced" to study with an elder.

  otherwise i would be dragged to questioning, which is to much pressure for a young inexperienced person like me.

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  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/144000.php

  has some figures to show that there have already been more than 144,000.

  You could run through the scripture being figurative and that there seems to have need more than 144,000, and then ask "when do you think there will be new light and the doctrine be changed to being a figurative number?" Then when it happens the elder will recall what you said and remember you, maybe even as a prophet.