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  Best place to "Advertise, Advertise, Advertise!"

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  i was at a hippyish restaurant today, this was on the washroom wall.

  no, this is not a fake or a photoshop....

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  jwfacts

  I love that picture. So dirty. Like it belongs in a scene from American Horror Story. People are going to think it is a hook up site, maybe short for Just Whores .com
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  New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

  2014 no.4 was the final straw.

  there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

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  I have read that the defection from Christianity in the US in the last decade by younger generations is related to views on homosexuality more than any other reason. Just stating the facts about what the Bible and Watchtower says is hopefully enough that people start to realise the viewpoints are not inspired and can be questioned.
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  New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

  2014 no.4 was the final straw.

  there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

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  The difficulty that I faced with this article is that there are passages in the Bible quite blatantly against homosexuality. I have read articles that attempt to prove otherwise, but the reasoning is quite a stretch. So I have tried to steer clear of any doctrinal debate on the topic, and rather highlight how Watchtower is unnecessarily harsh with its stance. If a person concludes that the Bible stand is unreasonable in the process of researching the topic, then that is not a bad outcome as well.

  Steve - To be 'fair', if you go back to the 1970s, many organizations, religious or otherwise, were writing incredibly uninformed things about causal factors in homosexuality - in that regard, the organization's literature hardly 'stands out'.

  As Jehovah's spokesmen, they should not be swayed by public ignorance. I agree though that JWs will dismiss those articles as old light, as illogical a stance as that is, which is why I have included a range of quotes from each decade since then.

  Steve - it does seem a bit OTT to describe the literature as "slanderous" - unless you are speaking figuratively?
  

  I will change slanderous to malicious. Then again, Watchtower does love searching for figurative statements, it allows so much flexibility in interpretation, so maybe JWs will feel comfortable if I leave in some figurative terminology.
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  New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

  2014 no.4 was the final straw.

  there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

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  A person is born homosexual; it is not a choice

  There is no evidence that the first part of this statement is true. From genetics we learn that at birth the individual's sexual proclivity is not differentiated or determined. There is no test which could determine that a baby is born homosexual or heterosexual.

  Nevertheless the second part of the statement

  Half Banana, thank you for the clarification. I will adjust that sentence.
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  New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

  2014 no.4 was the final straw.

  there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

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  Thanks for the comments. Listener, I have updated the article to account for your observations. DS, I will post on JWR as well.
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  Galatians 5:26 was used in and before the 1960`s to not be involved in competitive sports for yourself or for your children

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  myself and my peers in the jw organization in the 1960`s discouraged our children from entering into competitive sports because of the jw policy , regarding that scripture .. has their been a radical change since then ?

  a re-interpretation of that scripture ?.

  why i ask this question is : here in victoria australia where afl football ( aussie rules ) is often regarded as a religion , especially to the state, victoria , we have, according to the media , a devout jehovah`s witness playing professional afl football at a competitive level.. and at their latest win , the team , including alec rance a jw of the richmond club was enthusiastically singing the club victory song along with his teammates on their win .. are their other examples of this in other parts of the world or is this an australian hiccup.. smiddy.

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  Here is an article about Rance. http://www.theage.com.au/sport/alex-rances-dilemma-jehovahs-witnesses-in-sport-20150429-1mw11w.html

  Interesting that the last reference in the index to Gal 5:26 is back from 1996, where Watchtower was jusftifying their misuse of this scripture.

  *** g96 11/8 p. 30 From Our Readers ***

  Sports Competition Your article “Is Competition in Sports Wrong?” (December 8, 1995) was very confusing to me, in that it used Galatians 5:26. What does the book of Galatians have to do with sports and games? Paul is speaking about spirit versus flesh and freedom versus slavery. The King James Version renders that verse: “Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another.”

  P. O., United States

  It is true that the apostle did not specifically have in mind athletic competition when he penned those words. However, some Christians were evidently making unfair comparisons with one another. This gave rise to ‘fleshly’ attitudes such as ‘enmities, strife, jealousy, contentions, and divisions.’ (Galatians 5:20, 21; 6:3, 4) Paul thus cautioned Christians not to be “stirring up competition with one another.” According to “The New Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon,” the Greek word rendered “competition” means “to challenge to a combat or contest with one.” This principle would certainly apply to sports activities or to any activity that could cause Christians to compete with one another in an unwholesome way.—ED.
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  New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

  2014 no.4 was the final straw.

  there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

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  I have thought about writing this article for many years, and the Awake! 2014 No.4 was the final straw. There it states that Jehovah's Witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own." I have had too many gay JW friends suffer severe terribly, including depression, shunning and suicide, due to the Watchtower's hateful filled speak about homosexuals, that I could not ignore this topic any longer.

  Watchtower View of Homosexuality and Transgender

  Let me know if you think I have missed anything.
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  Challenging JWs at Cult Carts

  by cofty in

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  if i have time i always talk to jws when i see a cult cart.. they are in a public forum promoting a harmful ideology therefore they are fair game.

  having said that, the individual jws on the trolley are not the enemy so i think it's better to keep it as friendly and non-confrontational as possible.. being realistic no jw is going to admit they are wrong because of something we say to them on the street but don't underestimate the long-term effect of doubts.. so what are your ideas for how to approach them?.

  personally i like to use the literature on the cart.

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  I made my assistent play furious about the covering up of child abuse in false religion....

  Awesome. When you get even braver you could have a part where a householder plays furious about the findings of the ARC and JWs and then come up with some lame justifications that it is apostate lies and we didn't know as much back then about child abuse etc.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

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  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  That was a good topic to start with. Discussing doctrine often won't get too far, as he will just blame his own limited understanding. If you have the CD library and can research with him how a generation used to be within a lifetime of 1914, you can say how that made a lot more sense, but wasn't even true. So the GB aren't guided by Jehovah if they are just making things up as they go along, and then making something else up when they are proven wrong.
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  Question about baptism around 1973- can anyone answer for me?

  by Virgochik in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.. i was baptized in 1973, you know, because i was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when armageddon descended in 1975. .

  perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because i honestly don't recall, and really need to know.. what were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then?

  were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit?.

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  There is a summary of the baptism questions over the decades at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/baptism.php