Posts by jwfacts

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Sample Disassociation Letters

by Vanderhoven7 in

what do you think of the following sample disassociation letter from 4jehovah.org ?.

if you are looking to disassociate from jehovah’s witnesses, here is a sample letter you can modify for your use:.

i have decided to disassociate myself from the ____________ congregation of jehovah’s witness.

jwfacts

I do not see the point in this letter, and the writer is trying to be too clever for their own good.

If a person does not want to disassociate, it is best not to do anything, just fade. By stating you do not agree with certain teachings of the Governing Body, you then admit to being what Watchtower regards as apostate and liable to be disfellowshipped.

Whilst one of the criteria to avoid being disfellowshipped is not recognising the authority of the elders and Watchtower, another is whether you are considered as one of Jehovah's Witnesses by the congregation and community, and hence they can still disfellowship you on that ground.

The elders will not provide names of accusers, or put things in writing, particularly to someone that just said they don't recognise their authority. Nor will they be frightened off from announcing a the person is no longer one of JWs, since it has been almost impossible to win a case when sue an elder for such a statement.

If the person genuinely does not want to be harassed by the elders, then write a letter saying that any calls and visits are causing distress and that an AVO will be sought. But the tone of this letter does not make it sound like harassment is the cause behind why it was written.

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Sale of kingdom halls

by inbetween09 in

we all know of kingdom halls being sold for the past few years.

recently i ran into an elder from a nearby congo, and he told me, that they were in the process of selling their hall, but sudenly it was paused, and he expressed it like the gb put a stop to all selling projects world wide.

any of you heard about that ?.

jwfacts

It would make sense that they may be putting the sale of Kingdom Halls on hold for the time being due to limited demand. I read this week that 50% of office space in Sydney CBD is currently vacant. There is discussion of rezoning to allow some to be sold off as residential. Since Kingdom Halls are built to suit commercial requirements, many would have fallen in value over the last 12 months.

It is likely Watchtower will still want to sell off more Kingdom Halls when the market turns. There has been little publisher growth, and with online meetings becoming normalised, I imagine some PIMI JWs will chose not to return to the Kingdom Hall in the future, particularly older ones. There is not going to be much need to increase the number of Kingdom Halls for some time. Hopefully, 2019 will be the year that holds the record for the most Kingdom Halls ever.

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JW's coming on to this site to preach.

by Overrated in

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friends

webmaster for removing jw's that come on here to preach their crap.

i don't want to hear their fake stuff.

i come here to recover from their damage and to help others.

jwfacts

Discussions on this site with JW apologists have been very effective over the years in showing observers how their arguments hold no weight and rapidly collapse under scrutiny. There is benefit in allowing JWs to post.

I agree that reading what JWs post can be traumatic. I gave up arguing online, as JW apologists have no intention of holding a logical conversation or willingness to consider other points of view, and I would get stressed over the discussion.

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Is "Active Publishers" a new concept?

by jwfacts in

i just saw the congregation analysis report for 2020, a form i have not noticed before.

it asks for the number of "active publishers.

" this is a term i have not seen specified before.

jwfacts

I just saw the Congregation Analysis Report for 2020, a form I have not noticed before. It asks for the number of "Active publishers." This is a term I have not seen specified before. Average publishers has long included baptised and unbaptised preachers, and there has always been the concept of being irregular if preaching at least once in the last six months, and inactive if not reporting for more than 6 months. In the past though, the annual report include average and peak publishers. Is there a reason for requesting Active publishers?

From a statistical point of view, Active publishers is going to be higher than Average publishers. I am wondering if this will lead to replacing Average publishers with Active publishers to make the annual report look better, and make historical analysis difficult.

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How do you switch off the thoughts of being raised JW and feelings of anger

by Zeds Dead in

raised as a jo blow and married into it.

37 years in it and now last 7 years out of it which feels great.. have memories of being a kid in school in the uk and just hating everything about being the jw kid.

bullied, embarrassed in front of others and self-esteem went into the toilet.wished i was born into a different family.. what angers me is the messaging i would receive at home when i talked about being bullied.

jwfacts

It doesn’t seem possible to totally get over it. This year I have been taking a bit of a break, spending less time online or talking about JW topics, and it does not pop up in my thoughts as much. But I can’t stop the frustration I feel when I hear my young niece got baptised because Covid is proof of Armageddon, or everytime a news arises that I know will have JWs salivating that Armageddon is imminent.

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Baptism during Covid - pool must tough the ground?

by jwfacts in

the july 2020 announcements mentions that baptism can be held in an “inflatable pool” as long as it touches the ground.

the pool must not be “on a terrace, flat roof, balcony, etc.”.

has anyone ever noticed that as a requirement?.

jwfacts

Thanks for the replies. Makes more sense now that it is a safety concern, and not some strange new Scriptural requirement.

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Received a letter from a JW today.

by smiddy3 in

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it started off as "dear friend ,as one of your neighbours" , however the postmark on the letter was from 2 townships away ?

a good twenty minute car drive away .a minor point i know.

it goes on about how she is concerned about the effects that current events are having on the welfare of the community and the corona-virus has prevented her from discussing the issues personally with me.. she then goes on to state and quote jeremiah 29:11 and then goes on to say "for more information about this promise and other questions like :.

jwfacts

Since her concern regards the welfare of the community you could send her links to local charities she can donate to that help those in need within the community due to loss of jobs and income.

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Baptism during Covid - pool must tough the ground?

by jwfacts in

the july 2020 announcements mentions that baptism can be held in an “inflatable pool” as long as it touches the ground.

the pool must not be “on a terrace, flat roof, balcony, etc.”.

has anyone ever noticed that as a requirement?.

jwfacts

The July 2020 Announcements mentions that baptism can be held in an “inflatable pool” as long as it touches the ground. The pool must not be “on a terrace, flat roof, balcony, etc.”.

Has anyone ever noticed that as a requirement?

I was baptised in an iron bath tub on a Wooden school hall stage, and am not sure that satisfies the requirement of being in contact with the ground. Not that it matters. Even if my baptism was not valid in the eyes of God, it was binding enough in the eyes of men to warrant my disfellowshipping.

Edit to acknowledge the title should be touch, not tough. The quote was in fact “in contact with the ground.”

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The Cry of Peace And Security

by jwfacts in

a bit late in coming, but i have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php.

this was prompted by trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst jehovah's witnesses.

i would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences..

jwfacts

Thanks Room 215, though a lot of it is just information I collated from what has been posted across different forums.

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The Cry of Peace And Security

by jwfacts in

a bit late in coming, but i have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php.

this was prompted by trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst jehovah's witnesses.

i would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences..

jwfacts

A bit late in coming, but I have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php

This was prompted by Trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst Jehovah's Witnesses.

I would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences.