KillerJones
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Canadian branch getting rid of their trucks and drivers
by wannaexit ina recent letter to the elders outlined the new arrangement for delivering literature to the congregations.
the canadian branch will be downsizing by eliminating drivers and trucks and utilizing commercial carriers to bring the boxes of monthly literature .
more outsourcing and more lay offs.. the funny thing about it is that they want to have the literature delivered to various private homes of the rank and file rather than have the literature delivered to the kingdom hall.
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KillerJones
Sending away those who have slaved away for so many years is just plain immoral. I wonder what those brothers and sisters will recieve by way of a pension? Perhaps a little E.I.? -
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royal commission so far
by zeb inbefore another day goes past please, summarize the outcome in dot points of the royal commission so far.
for me in no order;.
that the wt considers sex crimes against children of little importance.
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KillerJones
The 'Theocratic Warfare' term is still used, however, it is kept to higher levels in the borg. When I served as an international servant in Paraguay, the missionaries would take us into unassigned territory. To get past the army check points, we would show them our NGO(Non-Government Org.) cards issued from the United Nations.
I asked about these cards, and I was told it was all part of Jehovahs' theocratic warfare...and to keep it under my hat.
Why i didnt wake up sooner...
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Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead
by Viviane inrecently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.
i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.
first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.
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KillerJones
Where did you learn about Boolean operations?
Great logic here. Loved it.
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A brilliant psychologist
by voodoo lady ini've been seeing a brilliant psychologist.
he has been pivotal in drawing the parallels between my jw upbringing - specifically the hypocrisy i saw as a child - and the reason i've tolerated lies and inconsistencies in my most significant adult relationship.. i've seen one other psychologist in the past.
she didn't get the issues surrounding the religion whatsoever, didn't regard that aspect of my backstory as relevant, and was of little help to me.. has anyone else seen a psychologist - whether for help with coping in the aftermath of leaving the religion, or for seemingly unrelated issues that actually turned out to be related?
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KillerJones
Hi voodoo!
Yes, I have been seeing a clinical psycologist for many years (not a counselor ...lol) and she has truly helped me vacate the guilt of being in the organization. The lies had really done a number to me and the therapy was always positive. She helped me to appreciate that I was not bipolar as some had said, but was suffering from post-cult after effects. Symptoms were depression and suicidal thoughts, sense of isolation, guilt(of course, right) and confusion over right and wrong.
I am so happy you found your way out! Keep up with the sessions. I hope they make you feel a world better! We deserve to be free! 😄
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Growing number of memorial partakers explained(?) by local elder
by stillin ini brought this up in a conversation after today's meeting.
the elder knowingly acknowledged the growing number and pointed out that of course, now we understand why this is so.
i gave my best blank stare and said "we do?
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KillerJones
It is very clear from this overlapping graph below on memorial partakers. Any 'real' JW understands this...
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Constructive hobbies
by zeb inhm have a hobby?
im not asking what.. hm have taken up a constructive hobby since leaving?.
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KillerJones
I have had more time to hit the gym and read some very good novels. I am taking PT courses at a local university in the evenings(on the old meeting nights) and have got involved with a charity. I feel bad for not being more charitable when under their veil. Why are they so uncharitable? -
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Any answer will do...
by snare&racket inevery jw is subconsciously taught to plough on with their message at any cost, including, ironically, the truth.. we all did it, we all defended our beliefs or partook in bible studies, where we made up an answer on the spot with the only motivation being to get past the question and back to the sales pitch, or back to the sanctioned questions, in their books.
something that bugs me to this day!
who is so controlling so as to even provide people with their own questions!!!.
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KillerJones
Videos recorded in your own home are not subject to the same laws as those done on the street in public. These men are guests in YOUR house. Record away -
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Kissing hanks rear....
by _Morpheus ini havent seen this posted in a while and i think its really well done, so i share here now:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdp7pkecjvq.
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KillerJones
I wonder what a 'sheeplike' witness would think of this. Do you think they would see the connection? Hmmm😕 -
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses really practice charity and help the needy in war ravaged areas in third-world countries?
by JWCart inthe pusher i have told a young man today that jehovah's witnesses are one of the biggest helpers with hunger reliefs and bringing solar stoves to west africa and the watchtower has donated vast resources to help ebola victims by providing hundreds of "clean up stations" plus jehovah's witnesses are sending millions of dollars in medical aid, is this true?.
are jehovah witnesses with backing from the watchtower helping eliminate illiterate children like the catholic church is doing in uganda and kenya by housing 5 to 13 year old kids and proving two meals, a roof over their head and education up to 15 years giving them a edge, so they don't end up in the sex trade, as a jw-cart the pride swelled up in my heart knowing how generous our organization is with the poor.
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KillerJones
Uhmm...NO. -
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how many of you are parents of adult children who still follow the wt and think you are misled?
by sowhatnow inwhat have you done so far as to convince them they are misled?
what has worked for you.. it is inconceivable to me, that if my mother or father showed me proof of why the wt org is false, that i wouldn't take them seriously, after all they are older and should know better, but it seems there are some of you who have the opposite outcome, where your children think you are misled and senile, and grandparents are surely labeled as senile.
one would reason then, if this were truly the case, that you are 'senile' or demented, then wouldn't that be taken into consideration when having loving contact with your parents?
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KillerJones
When I was about to leave, my good friend(elder) warned me about telling my wife. He said the elders would give her a scriptural divorce if I was DF for apostasy.
Unbelievable mind games. Thankful my wife saw the TATT. I wish all couples could have this joy of leaving with your best friend. Here's to the next 35 years! 🍷